Food Prices and On the Shelves Supply

[Old Rooster]

One of the news shows showed a small town where walmart came in and ran every small guy out of town and in a couple of years walmart folded and left and now everyone has to travel quite a distance to another town to just buy grocery's.They said that has happened so many times they could not keep count.
I see your point levers4life

 

[Orange Dust]

One of the news shows showed a small town where walmart came in and ran every small guy out of town and in a couple of years walmart folded and left and now everyone has to travel quite a distance to another town to just buy grocery's.They said that has happened so many times they could not keep count.
I see your point levers4life

All part of a bigger plan to limit choices. ever read the communist manisfesto?
Back to prices....
We have a new Cosco in town. We shop way too much at a Krogers right down the street. Cosco and Sams are both a 30 min drive. the only way to save money is to compare prices and shop at all three. Here is an example: Krogers had Pork butts on sale for about 5 bucks. They were 8 at Sams and 12 @ Cosco. Full briskets were over a hundred bucks at Kroger, 80 at Sams and 40 at Cosco. Every store has great deals to draw in shoppers. If you buy anything else in the store (because you are there anyway) they will get even with you. Never go to a grocery store hungry, and never go in without a specific list of items you are there to purchase. Check on all of those online before going there if possible. We may not be able to survive the increases long term, but for now you can actually cut your costs in half if you put a little time and effort into it. Never buy anything in a box, They really put it to you for convenience.

 

[Muddyboots]

Let me tell you how weird this is getting, pulled into a Burger King for quick burger on the go. Out of burgers..we have chicken though. Chicken King?

 

[WILLR]

Maybe someone can explain to me. WHY !!!! We were energy independent in gasoline and natural gas . PA gasoline was 4.39 last week AMERICAN GAS in WORTHINGTON was 3.83 Sunday . NATURAL GAS was $ 88 monthly budget plan to $146 monthly . PA HAS ALL KINDS OF NATURAL GAS and they the companies are now paying @ 2400 an acre royality. THEY HAD BEEN SHUTTING OFF the wells last couple of years for a d=couple a months at a time . BIG CORRUPT GOVERNMENT in power now .

 

[74honker]

All part of a bigger plan to limit choices. ever read the communist manisfesto?
Back to prices....
We have a new Cosco in town. We shop way too much at a Krogers right down the street. Cosco and Sams are both a 30 min drive. the only way to save money is to compare prices and shop at all three. Here is an example: Krogers had Pork butts on sale for about 5 bucks. They were 8 at Sams and 12 @ Cosco. Full briskets were over a hundred bucks at Kroger, 80 at Sams and 40 at Cosco. Every store has great deals to draw in shoppers. If you buy anything else in the store (because you are there anyway) they will get even with you. Never go to a grocery store hungry, and never go in without a specific list of items you are there to purchase. Check on all of those online before going there if possible. We may not be able to survive the increases long term, but for now you can actually cut your costs in half if you put a little time and effort into it. Never buy anything in a box, They really put it to you for convenience.

This right here. You have to be vigilant, watch for sales, coupons, and go where the deals are. And when you find a good deal, STOCK UP! I know it's getting harder to do this but still possible. My wife is a coupon/deal queen lol.

 

[Orange Dust]

This right here. You have to be vigilant, watch for sales, coupons, and go where the deals are. And when you find a good deal, STOCK UP! I know it's getting harder to do this but still possible. My wife is a coupon/deal queen lol.

So is mine. She loves to spend money way too much to waste it.

 

[Montana'eer]

All part of a bigger plan to limit choices. ever read the communist manisfesto?
Back to prices....
We have a new Cosco in town. We shop way too much at a Krogers right down the street. Cosco and Sams are both a 30 min drive. the only way to save money is to compare prices and shop at all three. Here is an example: Krogers had Pork butts on sale for about 5 bucks. They were 8 at Sams and 12 @ Cosco. Full briskets were over a hundred bucks at Kroger, 80 at Sams and 40 at Cosco. Every store has great deals to draw in shoppers. If you buy anything else in the store (because you are there anyway) they will get even with you. Never go to a grocery store hungry, and never go in without a specific list of items you are there to purchase. Check on all of those online before going there if possible. We may not be able to survive the increases long term, but for now you can actually cut your costs in half if you put a little time and effort into it. Never buy anything in a box, They really put it to you for convenience.

Our choices in places to shop become limited because of market consolidation, which is a function of a free market not communism. Small businesses get bought (at a profit usually) all the time. Big box outlets move in and the smaller guys can't compete and shut down. That's how it is.

 

[Orange Dust]

Our choices in places to shop become limited because of market consolidation, which is a function of a free market not communism. Small businesses get bought (at a profit usually) all the time.

No, they tipped their hand with covid and essential business. Shut down all the mom and pops and congregated consumers in big businesses. Makes no sense fighting the disease, makes all the sense in the world if your goals are to eliminate the middle class, small business that creates it, and limit business to a select number of entities you can control. This is what they did. And they were pretty successful. You believe what they said. You have that right.

 

[Montana'eer]

When did the last independent grocer go out of business in your town? The last independently owned gas station? Did you have a local pharmacy or was it always CVS?
We brought this on ourselves. We should have run from Walmart years ago; we should have fought them tooth and nail to keep them from gutting every small business in every town they came to.
Now Dollar Stores are putting the nail in the coffin of small business on Main St.
But it was cheaper and more convenient, right?
How's that going for us now?

We don't buy diddly from WalMart. I haven't stepped foot in there maybe but once in 5 years. We have a few independent grocers in town- we shop there. I also don't buy any meat from a grocery store. We get a hog from a Hutte colony north of us and a local guy butchers it for us. I make my own breakfast sausage and use the trimming to make my own salami or other goods with the wild game we have. We buy beef maybe twice a year- a tri-tip roast and and some ribeyes. We pay the extra money to get those from a natural grocer in Helena that sells nothing but Montana meats- or we go to Butte and buy it from a butcher there that has local meats.

If people stopped buying crap from Wally World and other box retailers our local businesses wouldn't go under. Can't tell people what to do- but I enjoy buying local. I don't mind spending extra because we don't buy a lot of it. Plus I get to chat with people that generally have a brain between their ears.

 

[Montana'eer]

No, they tipped their hand with covid and essential business. Shut down all the mom and pops and congregated consumers in big businesses. Makes no sense fighting the disease, makes all the sense in the world if your goals are to eliminate the middle class, small business that creates it, and limit business to a select number of entities you can control. This is what they did. And they were pretty successful. You believe what they said. You have that right.

What all of a sudden small business closed because of COVID? Really? Consolidation has been going on for 30 years. I started in commercial finance when banks were still regulated to operate within state lines. I went thru 5 'consolidations' as soon as the banking industry pushed for deregulation.

 

[Orange Dust]

What all of a sudden small business closed because of COVID? Really? Consolidation has been going on for 30 years. I started in commercial finance when banks were still regulated to operate within state lines. I went thru 5 'consolidations' as soon as the banking industry pushed for deregulation.

No, They just Supercharged it. There are a ton of empty buildings locally that were thriving businesses in 2019. Government should never be allowed to pick winners and losers. It BREEDS corruption. They have been doing it for so long now folks think its ok and ignore it.

 

[WILLR]

I'm trying to get him to fox it. Brandon is a beet not a potato

BETTER YET cow patty or horse s====

 

[Montana'eer]

No, They just Supercharged it. There are a ton of empty buildings locally that were thriving businesses in 2019. Government should never be allowed to pick winners and losers. It BREEDS corruption. They have been doing it for so long now folks think its ok and ignore it.

It's rocking here. I'm seeing more business loans this year than the past several, especially on long term fixed assets. The challenges are finding and hiring qualified people.

I'm not sure where you are at, but unemployment currently sits right around a 50 year low.

And just to play devils advocate- since you don't want government involvement picking winners and losers- I assume you're also referring to farm subsidies? Export trade programs? Solar, wind and energy subsidies? Personally I think it's pornographic the amount of stimulus pumped into the economy over the current and past administration and Congress, not to mention the tax overhaul that certainly was sweetened for some commercial activities. However I'm not going to go so far to throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

[Orange Dust]

It's rocking here. I'm seeing more business loans this year than the past several, especially on long term fixed assets. The challenges are finding and hiring qualified people.

I'm not sure where you are at, but unemployment currently sits right around a 50 year low.

And just to play devils advocate- since you don't want government involvement picking winners and losers- I assume you're also referring to farm subsidies? Export trade programs? Solar, wind and energy subsidies? Personally I think it's pornographic the amount of stimulus pumped into the economy over the current and past administration and Congress, not to mention the tax overhaul that certainly was sweetened for some commercial activities. However I'm not going to go so far to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Glad you all are doing well. Better get all those loans in before the Interest rates climb