Finally happened to me..😐

[Barrelnut]

The seller should eventually be able to get UPS to make good on the claim. Even if he has to take the @Muddyboots route. It might take 2-3 months though.
The seller has not lost any monetary value in this transaction, as he currently holds your money and he will get reimbursed from UPS. You on the other hand have money tied up in something that might not be resolved for months.
I feel for the both of you. But, you would not be outta line to ask for a refund and he should be obliged to give it.

 

[Muddyboots]

I wonder how far a criminal theft complaint would go? Seriously, theft in shipping is like a scam. No risk at all to the thieves.

 

[Muddyboots]

So I wonder if you sent seller a GPS tag to hide in package? Not really expensive but maybe one way to get more info and grab these dirt bags.

 

[Barrelnut]

Had UPS deliver a package of mine (from Nikon) to the wrong residence. That residence kept the package and told UPS they didn't know anything about it.
Knew my UPS guy pretty well. He stopped by one day with a paper for me to sign acknowledging I didn't receive the package. Nikon then replaced the item.
My UPS guy, apologised and told me, oddly enough, his roommate who also worked for UPS, had filled in for him that day as the roommate also worked for UPS. It was the roommate who delivered first package to the wrong address.
My UPS guy said all UPS had to do was look up the GPS record for the truck and could verify that the package was delivered to the wrong address. He said the GPS system tracked the delivery truck stops to within 10 feet...
My UPS guy went to the door of the residence and asked them if they were delivered a package by mistake. They said they had not. So they got a free rifle scope that day. USP guy said this happens way more than you would think...

 

[Deputy819]

I wonder how far a criminal theft complaint would go? Seriously, theft in shipping is like a scam. No risk at all to the thieves.

Without a suspect? It would go nowhere. A uniform offense report could be completed, but would just sit in "UOR cyberspace."

 

[243winxb]

**POOF**…disappeared.

https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Missing-Mail-The-Basics

My first question to the shipper, "Was shipping info placed inside the package? Did info include shipper & recipient address & phone numbers?
The shipping label on the outside of the package, may have been destroyed. May be sitting in a hold area?

Do your own search. Hope this helps.

 

[74honker]

Sorry to hear this Deputy819. Been screwed by UPS several times over similar "lost" shipments. Like Muddy said it's a shame what these people have come to and burns my butt. I do also think it is on the seller to make right.

 

[david g ranes]

Bill, if you were in my situation what would you do as far as the seller/shipper is concerned?

Until you receive what you paid for the person should be honorable enough to return your money it is still his until you get it. David

 

[Huntsman66]

Without a suspect? It would go nowhere. A uniform offense report could be completed, but would just sit in "UOR cyberspace."

Not only that but it would be really difficult to establish jurisdiction, how do you prove exactly where it was stolen from. I have had packages that arrived, but with an empty box, the item removed and then had been resealed….. very frustrating, and none of the shipping companies give a S*#t…

 

[Deputy819]

Not only that but it would be really difficult to establish jurisdiction, how do you prove exactly where it was stolen from.

That's a good point. The ONLY thing I could go by would be the county where the package went "missing." In this case it would be Fayette County, Kentucky……and where that HUB is falls under the jurisdiction of the Lexington, Ky Police Department.

 

[flyguy1]

I had a moment of panic when I gave a couple of nice bows to a guy, and UPS "lost" the package for a while.

The local UPS person assured me the insurance would pay up, glad didn't have to find out.

Any thoughts on placing Apple Air Tags, or something similar, in packages so you know where they are?

 

[Deputy819]

Any thoughts on placing Apple Air Tags, or something similar, in packages so you know where they are?

Certainly a good idea. When/if the buyer gets the item they could always mail it back to you I guess?

 

[Huntsman66]

That's a good point. The ONLY thing I could go by would be the county where the package went "missing." In this case it would be Fayette County, Kentucky……and where that HUB is falls under the jurisdiction of the Lexington, Ky Police Department.

I agree in your situation that may work, you could start where the tracking stopped. You know as well as I do, it's gonna be hard. In my case, the package tracked all the way through from seller to buyer, but somewhere along the way the box was emptied out. Good luck brother, and yes the seller should at this point just refund your money and deal with the problem. Because there is literally nothing you can do on any account. You aren't considered the victim he is.

 

[Muddyboots]

The problem is local shippers could care less. IMO you have to notify the highest responsible corporate entity and keep on doing so. Their Corporate Governance requires follow up. I would also inform local "investigators" the issue is going up food chain IF they refuse to perform a reasonable investigation that isn't walking around facility kicking tires. All companies have so called "hot line" that can be used as well. IMO time to pull the corp heads out of their butts.