exploding bullets on impact...is this real or are people guessing?

[CVCOBRA1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P3uwl5H
Kieth Warren management doe hunt with 50 BMG.....didn't even hit her but the concussion took her down.

 

[73driver]

I have seen this not once but twice.
Once I shot a 65 lb button buck with a hot 30-06 load with 168 grn SMK. Hit the neck...bullet exploded giving a horrendous wound but did not penetrate halfway thru the little deer's neck. He did not go anywhere.
Friend shot a so Texas doe in shoulder. Bullet exploded and took out teh shoulder joint, but did not penetrate into the chest cavity (270 Win Federal promo ammo ca 1987) She walked away as if untouched.

I had a sierra 150gr 30-06 spitzer hit a small coues at close range quartering face on. Bullet hit the toughest part of the shoulder blade and blew bone and lead throughout the chest cavity. DRT and on recoil I saw hooves pointing skyward in my scope (bullet was maybe 5-10 year old hand load back in 1972) everything between ribs and diaphragm shredded. 10-15 years later my own hot 165 SGK 30-06 load at 60 yards on middling sized Coues blew through onside shoulder, clipped top of heart and out the far side shoulder, that sucker ran 70 yards. I saw him run off and heard him pile up, tracking was easy as blood blowing out off side shoulder. Moral is don't use SMK to hunt.

 

[David Lindler]

All lead/ copper bullets can and will fragment at extreme velocity or when striking heavy bone. There are a lot of guality bonded bullets and copper bullet that will retain more weight when sticking heavy bone. Thin skinned animals such as deer do not require bonded bullets at practical velocity and range. Berger bullets are designed to fragment after 4-6 inches of penetration and usually retain 40-60 percent bullet weight. Never lost a deer with one. Work well close and far. The problem with some of the bonded and copper bullets is that that fail to open up properly at longer ranges and leave poor blood trails.
Then old nosler partition is designed to shed the nose of the bullet and the heavy shank provided deep penetration. Great bullet. Bullet placement is everything no matter what bullet you use. Most bullet manufacturer's can provide you with technical information about the practical range of their bullets. the pic is from a 270 130 grain Hornady SST on a mule deer shoulder bullet totally exploded, destroyed the shoulder and 200lb buck dropped in his tracks.

 

[Jared2700]

How do you get blood shot meat with a bow kill, blood shot meat happens for a few reasons not related to what the bullet is made of but the shock wave and how the animal bleeds after words. I've blood shot the heck out of an animal with a mono but it's harder to do because of how they open.
To date I've seen more elk stop a Barnes on the shoulder than any other bullet I've shot, I've shot a pile with a 168 out of large 30 cals for years till I realized how bad they sucked!! Still shoot Barnes for varmints or smaller game but no elk anymore, if I use a mono it's a Hammer which is far more lethal and penetrates in a straight line way better!!

You must have the best luck in the world... how far away from the elk where you? What angle was your shot. I'll bet you're a burger fan right... they explode and lose 40 to 60 percent on impact. If the animal caught your Barnes bullet it was lights out right, or are you a liar??? I am talking about barnes bullets no traditional bullets. Because if it got caught that would mean every bit of energy was expelled from your shot... You make no sense about penetration of both sides. It would have had to have made jello out of the animals insides, making for the ultimate death. I know that it didn't blow up on the hide..... Make sure you know what you are talking about before you go running your mouth...... I'm not saying that there's no blood shot meat with a Barnes bullet, just way less. And the conventional bullet does blow apart whenever it hit anything. That's it why the bullet loses weight....... We are also talking about bullets with thin jackets and a soft lead cores.

 

[FEENIX]

You must have the best luck in the world... how far away from the elk where you? What angle was your shot. I'll bet you're a burger fan right... if the animal caught your bullet it was lights out right or are you a liar??? Because if it got caught that would mean every bit of energy was expelled from your shot... you make no sense about penetration of both sides. It would have had to have made jello out of the animals insides, making for the ultimate death. I know that it didn't blow up on the hide..... make sure you know what you are talking about before you go running your mouth......

IBTL!

 

[Jared2700]

IBTL!

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I like your deer where in the world did you get it from. I want to steal it.

 

[Orange Dust]

You must have the best luck in the world... how far away from the elk where you? What angle was your shot. I'll bet you're a burger fan right... they explode and lose 40 to 60 percent on impact. If the animal caught your Barnes bullet it was lights out right, or are you a liar??? I am talking about barnes bullets no traditional bullets. Because if it got caught that would mean every bit of energy was expelled from your shot... You make no sense about penetration of both sides. It would have had to have made jello out of the animals insides, making for the ultimate death. I know that it didn't blow up on the hide..... Make sure you know what you are talking about before you go running your mouth...... I'm not saying that there's no blood shot meat with a Barnes bullet, just way less. And the conventional bullet does blow apart whenever it hit anything. That's it why the bullet loses weight....... We are also talking about bullets with thin jackets and a soft lead cores.

He does

 

[Jared2700]

All lead/ copper bullets can and will fragment at extreme velocity or when striking heavy bone. There are a lot of guality bonded bullets and copper bullet that will retain more weight when sticking heavy bone. Thin skinned animals such as deer do not require bonded bullets at practical velocity and range. Berger bullets are designed to fragment after 4-6 inches of penetration and usually retain 40-60 percent bullet weight. Never lost a deer with one. Work well close and far. The problem with some of the bonded and copper bullets is that that fail to open up properly at longer ranges and leave poor blood trails.
Then old nosler partition is designed to shed the nose of the bullet and the heavy shank provided deep penetration. Great bullet. Bullet placement is everything no matter what bullet you use. Most bullet manufacturer's can provide you with technical information about the practical range of their bullets. the pic is from a 270 130 grain Hornady SST on a mule deer shoulder bullet totally exploded, destroyed the shoulder and 200lb buck dropped in his tracks.

Good post. I have seen barnes bullets shed pedals when striking bones. Especially if it was the spine.

 

[Jared2700]

He does

Make no sense..

 

[Jared2700]

All lead/ copper bullets can and will fragment at extreme velocity or when striking heavy bone. There are a lot of guality bonded bullets and copper bullet that will retain more weight when sticking heavy bone. Thin skinned animals such as deer do not require bonded bullets at practical velocity and range. Berger bullets are designed to fragment after 4-6 inches of penetration and usually retain 40-60 percent bullet weight. Never lost a deer with one. Work well close and far. The problem with some of the bonded and copper bullets is that that fail to open up properly at longer ranges and leave poor blood trails.
Then old nosler partition is designed to shed the nose of the bullet and the heavy shank provided deep penetration. Great bullet. Bullet placement is everything no matter what bullet you use. Most bullet manufacturer's can provide you with technical information about the practical range of their bullets. the pic is from a 270 130 grain Hornady SST on a mule deer shoulder bullet totally exploded, destroyed the shoulder and 200lb buck dropped in his tracks.

Nice buck by the way!

 

[Orange Dust]

Make no sense..

Referring to your comment to bigngreen

 

[Jared2700]

Referring to your comment to bigngreen

I just can't figure out what part of this thread he is taking side on. Mabe cutting edge bullets are great I have no experience with them. I have shot dozens of different types of bullets. I have nearly 30 years of experience with Barnes bullets and have killed all sorts of things with them. Yes I have fought bullets in my deer and elk,but it was lights out every time. Maybe if you were to take a Texas heart shot then it would have a probability of the animal running off. But I've seen this happen to some inexperienced shooter that were using barnes and they still end up disrupting enough of the animals insides, and most of the time they were able to track it down and take it home. I seen others people make bad shots and lose the animal with other rounds. So my opinion is Barnes X bullet is a good way to go. I think most people here are decent shots, and we are not going to be taking chances with wounding game. I'm not here to criticize, just here to share some knowledge. Have a good evening!

 

[Orange Dust]

What he is trying to say is any bullet if deiven fast enough into enough resistance will fail to penetrate. It is a combination of the two. You have to have enough momentum. This comes from weight and sectional density. All bullets no matter what the construction have an ideal operating range. This can be overcome to a point by using a bigger gun that will cause more damage in all situations asumming the animal offers enough resistance to upset the bullet. This is why sometimes a load that will destroy the front end of a deer may not even kill an elk with the same shot. Seems to make no sense, but play around with big fast guns and you will see this happen

 

[UplandFreak]

I just can't figure out what part of this thread he is taking side on. Mabe cutting edge bullets are great I have no experience with them. I have shot dozens of different types of bullets. I have nearly 30 years of experience with Barnes bullets and have killed all sorts of things with them. Yes I have fought bullets in my deer and elk,but it was lights out every time. Maybe if you were to take a Texas heart shot then it would have a probability of the animal running off. But I've seen this happen to some inexperienced shooter that were using barnes and they still end up disrupting enough of the animals insides, and most of the time they were able to track it down and take it home. I seen others people make bad shots and lose the animal with other rounds. So my opinion is Barnes X bullet is a good way to go. I think most people here are decent shots, and we are not going to be taking chances with wounding game. I'm not here to criticize, just here to share some knowledge. Have a good evening!

You'll find out real quick that there are a handful of guys are here who are Hammer supporters and everything else is stupid type people. For some reason in their mind, getting behind a barnes bullet is somehow bad mouthing hammers. I don't know if they get free hammer bullets or what. There will be a thread asking whether they should go with the eldx or the eldm and some idiot will inevitably scream out hammer. I know I am new, but the bias is incredibly easy to see and super annoying. Especially on a long range site.