Effect of Suppressor on Hand Loads

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Lead gas in u'r face w/traditional cans.not healthy. New LBP cans are amazingly quiet. As quiet as traditional baffle stack any day. PTR(vent1/308) & silencerco (556)velosI have experienced. The impact point was less than 2" ,308 & 1" velos. CAT cans have same reported results. All more $ but stupid not to use on gas gun. My hearing health & gasses in lungs is more important. As for shift , it's as much for hand load as factory loads. Cleaning that hard on gas gun is for birds.
 
I'm in the same boat. I always buy local if I can. I'm next door to you and will hopefully find a Made in Idaho manufacturer when I seriously begin looking.
Look at jk armament, I've got 5 of Jake's suppressors and love them. From .22 lr up to 300 prc, only one has a quick detach the rest are direct thread .
 
Others have covered you pretty well so I'll give you my experience because I was in a similar spot this year. Knew I wanted to shoot my bolt guns and ARs suppressed

I shot my fathers TBAC p223 (comparable to ultra 7) on my AR and after one shot, it gave me instant tears from the gas and I knew this couldn't be the way. My ARs do not have adjustable gas blocks

Bought a TBAC Ultra 7 for my bolt guns, meanwhile researching LBP or flow through cans for my ARs. Settled on HUXWRX Ventum 7.62 and have been very happy so far. The Ventum stays on my 16" 223 and has helped me killed a handful of yotes in the past couple months. If i could improve one thing on the Ventum, it would be the weight, althought it's not terrible as is. My TBAC Ultra 7 has only been shot on my new 7PRC and I love it, recoil is modest and so quiet compared to the brakes I used to shoot.

A friend of mine got a B&T SRBS 762-DM for his AR and his experience is similar. Great for rifle function and love its sound suppression, just on the heavy side especially because he has the ASR QD system.

To address the heat topic, yes things get hot, but my Ultra7 with a cover doesnt have much issues here in AZ when I shoot a group and let things chill for a bit. I slide the supprerssor cover rearward onto the barrel and let the can cool, it cools quickly. Without the cover, you will have heat waves after a handful of shots. Dont plan on touching the can bare-handed after its been shot and you'll be good, just takes a leather glove if you need to.
 
One will work for both, but they make flow through suppressors for gas guns that don't have as much gas coming out of the ejection port into your face. Generally these don't suppress quite as well, so it's nice to have 2.
Generally you'll need to turn the gas down a bit with a suppressor.
There are no long term effects on a rifle other than you'll likely shoot them more.
The Silencer Company Omega 36M gets work on both my 5.56 AR15 and .340Wby mag Weatherby MKV. It works great for both. For the AR it is used in short mode and long mode for the bolt gun. This suppressor was chosen for just this reason as it was cheaper than two. Note that for the gas gun an adjustable gas block is necessary. A gas suppressing charging handle is really nice to have as well. I use one from Silencer Company.

Another benefit of the 36M is that an muzzle break can be incorporated with the suppressor. It doesn't work as well as a stand along brake, but it helps. I run the .340 with a brake when target shooting and the can when hunting. This appears to be common practice among members of this forum.

Jump on the can band wagon. You will not regret that you did. Chat with the reps at different companies and compare notes. This is not a cheap accessory and worth the investment in time to make sure you get the one that is right for you.
 
This an AR 10 based rifle that I just completed. I made it a side charger, put a custom barrel extension on it, and chambered the Kreiger barrel for it. This was it's first trip to the range and these groups were actually the barrel break in groups shot with factory .308 ammo. Both of these groups were with the can attached. One group is 5 shots, the other is only three because it's all the GM Match I had with me. It really likes Federal Goldmedal Match!! I think it's going to work. The suppressor is an Omega 300 direct thread on.
 

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Who cares if your At gets dirtier with a non flow through can. I want max suppression and you give up some suppression with the flow through cans.

If you have a quality AR it will run when dirty and they are easy to clean up if you're into that.
 
One will work for both, but they make flow through suppressors for gas guns that don't have as much gas coming out of the ejection port into your face. Generally these don't suppress quite as well, so it's nice to have 2.
Generally you'll need to turn the gas down a bit with a suppressor.
There are no long term effects on a rifle other than you'll likely shoot them more.
This is the answer. I own a bunch ( 15-18 ) suppressors and only shoot with one. Rimfire, center fire, bolt and ar, I have 2 shotgun suppressors and had a suppressed muzzleloader. All guns react differently when you put on on it. Ar's sometimes take some tuning depending on barrel length, gas system length, buffer weight but generally if you have an adjustable gas block you can make them run without any trouble. I haven't had any issues over pressure with bolt guns adding a can. I tell everyone who's wanting to buy one to get 3, one to dedicated to your most used rifle one to move around if you want and a rimfire can that's easy to clean because shooting a suppressed 22 lr is the best way to get people who don't/haven't shot guns to get them to enjoy shooting plus it's awesome to have a target ring louder than the gun you're shooting it with.
 
Who cares if your At gets dirtier with a non flow through can. I want max suppression and you give up some suppression with the flow through cans.

If you have a quality AR it will run when dirty and they are easy to clean up if you're into that.
I 100% agree. I own 2 sbr ( short barrel rifle) 8" 300 blkout and 11" 223 that have rarely been cleaned and have 1000's of rounds between them. Only ever shot suppressed with a non flow though can. Yes they get dirty but they are ar's they are all carbon machines by design. The bullets do get dirty a little dirty but so what. I've never not had one chamber because there was a little carbon on the brass. I use one or the other several times a week for predator control or pig hunting and they just work. If I take the gun apart for some reason it gets cleaned but other than that they get put away the same way they come out dirty. You make them function correctly with adjustable gas blocks, buffers & springs you get just as much gas as shooting without a can.
 

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