Did 6.5 PRC obsolete the 6.5 CM only to be made obsolete?

[Creedmoor shooter]

I don't shoot PRS so I'm not the best to comment on this but don't most that shoot PRS reload and can't they just taylor their PRC loads for what they want?

I would veiw the PRC as just giving me more options. I could be way off on this though.

Actually youd be suprised how many people shoot factory ammo for prs competition. The reason the 6.5 prc will never be popular in prs is because of the recoil. You have to spot your own hits and misses in funky positions that are not conducive to good recoil control. That's why rounds like the 6.5 creed, 6.5x47, 6 creed, 6 dasher, 6 bra, etc are all popular.

 

[LVJ76]

It won't replace, they were for different applications, CM was created for competition shooting and the PRC for hunting, but the CM now has the dual application and the PRC does not.

The PRC has nowhere near the sales or following the CM does.

 

[DJ Fergus]

If you think about it, the 6.5 creedmoor blazed a trail for sales. If an average newer hunter who buys factory rifles & ammo liked the creedmoor, he will probably like the 6.5 prc even more. Then he decides he needs more gun. So he has to buy the 300 prc. After a few years of shooting his 7lb 300 prc rifle he decides its just too much, so Walla! This is where Hornady seizes the moment with a 7mm cartridge release. This will take the average new hunter 4-10 years to go through this cycle. Eventually there will be something even better. That's what drives the economy, something that's better than what you already have.

 

[Tidus56]

If you think about it, the 6.5 creedmoor blazed a trail for sales. If an average newer hunter who buys factory rifles & ammo liked the creedmoor, he will probably like the 6.5 prc even more. Then he decides he needs more gun. So he has to buy the 300 prc. After a few years of shooting his 7lb 300 prc rifle he decides its just too much, so Walla! This is where Hornady seizes the moment with a 7mm cartridge release. This will take the average new hunter 4-10 years to go through this cycle. Eventually there will be something even better. That's what drives the economy, something that's better than what you already have.

I am sure I will get suckered into their 7mm offering down the road. I have a love for 7s they are the balance I prefer.

 

[ripnbst]

I don't think that Creedmoor and PRC compete with one another as they are used in pretty different roles. Creedmoor is a great target round that is also no slouch in a deer stand or on a mountainside game trail. PRC is tough on barrels and as such doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense for a dedicated target round.

 

[Sockeye66]

Hopefully, we'll be around in 20 years to be able to look back at this thread and see where the cartridge world stands. Personally, I have a 6.5/284 which does anything the 6.5 PRC will do. On the other hand, I have several 6.5 CM's and I do not believe they will be going anywhere anytime soon, the 6.5 CM is too easy to shoot, too accurate, and too effective as a target and hunting cartridge. For whatever reason, many folks despise the 6.5 CM along the same lines as the 350 Chevy, both are a great balance of not to much and not to little.

 

[LVJ76]

I am sure I will get suckered into their 7mm offering down the road. I have a love for 7s they are the balance I prefer.

That makes two of us Lol. Love the 7mm's.

 

[LVJ76]

I don't think that Creedmoor and PRC compete with one another as they are used in pretty different roles. Creedmoor is a great target round that is also no slouch in a deer stand or on a mountainside game trail. PRC is tough on barrels and as such doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense for a dedicated target round.

Correct, just like the 7mm-08 was developed for Silhouette shooting but also turned out to be a great hunting cartridge. Now both the 7mm-08 and 6.5 CM has dual applications but with some limitations for hunting.

As for the PRC and say a 280 Rem or 7mm Rem Mag they just shoot further for longer range hunting.

 

[MajorSpittle]

If you think about it, the 6.5 creedmoor blazed a trail for sales. If an average newer hunter who buys factory rifles & ammo liked the creedmoor, he will probably like the 6.5 prc even more. Then he decides he needs more gun. So he has to buy the 300 prc. After a few years of shooting his 7lb 300 prc rifle he decides its just too much, so Walla! This is where Hornady seizes the moment with a 7mm cartridge release. This will take the average new hunter 4-10 years to go through this cycle. Eventually there will be something even better. That's what drives the economy, something that's better than what you already have.

Hey, that is me...... 7 RM, '06, 270 win, now 6.5 PRC because there is not 7.0 PRC.

Strangely I see 6.5 CM ammo everywhere in stores still but I see production 6.5 PRC rifles being sold as fast as they come in.

Gun makers must see the 6.5 PRC as the new 6.5 CM and all jumped on the bandwagon early producing rifles for them. Shouldn't be long before the ammo makers catch up and the shelves are filled with 6.5 PRC ammo and reloading supplies.

Thank goodness for Hornady updating Twist Rates on rifles with new cartridge in the market. Really hope they get something out for the 270 and 280..... It would be nice to have a replacement for the 30-06 case for different calibers. I think the old '06 is the perfect powder capacity for .284 down to .264 .... Not so much to replace the '06 case but to have new twist rates associated to the smaller calibers.

 

[MajorSpittle]

For whatever reason, many folks despise the 6.5 CM

People hunting elk with them at long range created most of the disdain for the round. I saw it as a nice deer round.

 

[DJ Fergus]

If a particular cartridge was ever going to obsolete another cartridge it would have been the 7mm Remington magnum obsoleting the 264 win mag. And the 264 win mag still lives on today. I really don't think that a cartridge can obsolete another. Those cartridges that are obsolete, obsoleted themselves or was obsoleted by the firearm configuration they were offered in.

 

[Quintus]

If you think about it, the 6.5 creedmoor blazed a trail for sales. If an average newer hunter who buys factory rifles & ammo liked the creedmoor, he will probably like the 6.5 prc even more. Then he decides he needs more gun. So he has to buy the 300 prc. After a few years of shooting his 7lb 300 prc rifle he decides its just too much, so Walla! This is where Hornady seizes the moment with a 7mm cartridge release. This will take the average new hunter 4-10 years to go through this cycle. Eventually there will be something even better. That's what drives the economy, something that's better than what you already have.

Yah, this^. What happens at the competition range usually stays there. What happens when a good competition intended cartridge does finally get loose with good marketing to the general hunter/shooter? The Creedmoor. I don't hunt with anyone that knows what the BR cartridges, the 6.5x47 or 284 are, but half of them have the 6.5 Creed now. A few of them have shot my 6.5PRC and are hot to get one. All I said was it's like the creed, but faster and they were sold. They have no idea about the bolt face, barrel life, case capacity with a 156 Berger reduced in a short action, none of it. They are already ready for the "upgrade" oddly because they had such great success with the creed. It also helps that while the brass may suck, the factory loads from Hornady for both cartridges are fantastic. When shooting the 147 ELDM load for break-in and brass my ES was 7FPS over 40 rounds. Amazing.

 

[Sockeye66]

People hunting elk with them at long range created most of the disdain for the round. I saw it as a nice deer round.

Couldn't agree more, yes the CM will kill an elk, but their are better options IMO.

 

[Tidus56]

Couldn't agree more, yes the CM will kill an elk, but their are better options IMO.

Don't think that's an opinion, I would call that a fact.