Copper Bullets

[Philward]

Nosler lists the lightest 25 cal bullet as the 85 BT. At 3600 fps MV it's only going 1585 fps at 800 yards.

Hmmm, never noticed that.

 

[QuietTexan]

Because I feel like an 85gr out of a huge case like the PRC is a mismatch. The jump would be pretty far I bet

You're making an assumption that jump matters - in this case it doesn't. The HH is somewhat like a cup and core bullet, but AH is cut so the first drive band is the first thing to engage. It's a bore rider, the engraving is all done in the shank. Jump doesn't matter in most varmint guns that shoot light for caliber bullets, it's the same concept with the light HHs. I can't get my 204 Ruger or 223AI to touch the lands with enough bullet in the neck to hold shooting really light bullets.

The other side is the point of the lower weight is more velocity to start with. You can send a lighter bullet fast enough that even shedding more velocity than a heavier bullet it gets to the animal with more than enough speed left to perform. KE doesn't matter, shedding the petals and punching through does. I run 200+ gn cup and core from an 8 twist 300 RUM, but my next Hammer with be a 124gn. Should be well north of 4000 FPS, MPBR out to 500 yards, fully expect it to drop deer the same as the 180HH in my 30-06.

 

[xsn10s]

Hmmm, never noticed that.

I ran it through jbm's ballistics app. I used 3500 ft elevation @85 degrees. I must of reset the temp for my local temps. During his hunt I would guess around 40 degrees or less.

 

[ButterBean]

You're making an assumption that jump matters - in this case it doesn't. The HH is somewhat like a cup and core bullet, but AH is cut so the first drive band is the first thing to engage. It's a bore rider, the engraving is all done in the shank. Jump doesn't matter in most varmint guns that shoot light for caliber bullets, it's the same concept with the light HHs. I can't get my 204 Ruger or 223AI to touch the lands with enough bullet in the neck to hold shooting really light bullets.

The other side is the point of the lower weight is more velocity to start with. You can send a lighter bullet fast enough that even shedding more velocity than a heavier bullet it gets to the animal with more than enough speed left to perform. KE doesn't matter, shedding the petals and punching through does. I run 200+ gn cup and core from an 8 twist 300 RUM, but my next Hammer with be a 124gn. Should be well north of 4000 FPS, MPBR out to 500 yards, fully expect it to drop deer the same as the 180HH in my 30-06.

Yep

 

[2buffalo]

I haven't taken animal with them yet but it's looking like I will be using them in my 338 NMI so hopefully sooner than later.

I am using the Lazer bullets.

I have been looking at them also I just haven't seen a lot of reports on them other than accuracy.

 

[QuietTexan]

CE is doing a sale, 20% off for previous customers per the email I just got. I stocked up on 180 Lazers for the 30 SM and 300 LIMP. Something is going to get shot with them this year.

 

[FEENIX]

Nosler lists the lightest 25 cal bullet as the 85 BT. At 3600 fps MV it's only going 1585 fps at 800 yards.

Try 145 BH G7=.371 at 3100 FPS MV 3300 FT elevation for 800 yards and see what you get for FPS and KE.

 

[diggdugg70]

Really, the best aspect about copper bullets is that they don't cause lead poisoning in Eagles .

Thats a bunch of BS from the anti-hunting, anti-guns liberal propaganda you guys have fallen for.

 

[ButterBean]

Thats a bunch of BS from the anti-hunting, anti-guns liberal propaganda you guys have fallen for.

It's meant as a joke Bud, we haven't fallen for anything

 

[DoneNOut]

Thats a bunch of BS from the anti-hunting, anti-guns liberal propaganda you guys have fallen for.

That was a total joke! WOW!

 

[memtb]

That was a total joke! WOW!

We really need to use emoji's ……often our somewhat warped sense of humor is not clear to everyone! memtb

 

[QuietTexan]

 

[DoneNOut]

We really need to use emoji's ……often our somewhat warped sense of humor is not clear to everyone! memtb

I did have an Eagle emoji…it looked happy!

 

[memtb]

I did have an Eagle emoji…it looked happy!

As I am a professional purveyor of hate and discontent…..I always try to be certain that the recipient of my comments know in what direction to take "said" comment! memtb