The best way I can describe on how to evaluate information is don't be a goldfish at feeding time. All Information should to be vetted by yourself which is how you truly learn.
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Calling for Change: Respect and Truth in Hunting Discussions
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Alex Wheeler
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With regards to youtube, its a profit based business. The vast majority of the guys your watching are basically paid advertisers. They are not successful competitors or professional gunsmiths. They are great for basic overviews on products and general processes. Forums are a much better source of quality info. You have to have a little sense to know who to listen to though. A forum allows people to disagree Youtube does not. You can just delete the posts that challenge you.
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Marky_mark
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You really have those outdoor life and hornady guys figured out hahahaahah
I agree. I have always supported being told I'm wrong if I am, as should anyone. I do not like knowingly putting out wrong or bad information. It's actually embarrassing.
There should be supporting evidence and arguments to back up how and why the person is wrong though, if there's to be any chance or hope that they accept that they're wrong any to have any sort of willingness to change their mind and now adapt to the real truth. You can't just tell someone they're wrong and/or tell them to just trust or believe you and expect them to. Most will not be convinced that easily, and like I said, we can't expect people to be either.
It's good to challenge those that question you to an extent. You don't want to be easily manipulated and you should believe in what you say. If you don't believe in it, you shouldn't be saying it from the start. Just because you believe it though, doesn't necessarily make it true or fact. This is why the person doing the correcting needs to provide the supporting information and evidence to back it up if there's any chance the other guy will see their error, accept it, and change their mind and what they then say moving forward.
Of course, some people won't accept it no matter what, but in that case, we disengage with them and move on with life if we want to remain happy and keep our sanity.
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Something I meant to add to this writeup, but forgot, as I missed it in my drafts I had between my phone and computer as I worked on it, is a bit on "Primacy Effect". It definitely ties in well to how we perceive the truth initially. It's also hugely outside of just social media too and we see it with mainstream media everyday.
The Primacy Effect
The primacy effect is a psychological phenomenon where people tend to remember, prioritize, or give more weight to the first piece of information they receive over information they encounter later. It's particularly influential in forming opinions, judgments, or decisions.
How the Primacy Effect Works:
Real-Life Examples:
1. News and Media: When people hear a claim from the first news source they encounter, they're more likely to believe it—even if corrected information emerges later.
2. Interpersonal Relationships: First impressions often dominate how people view someone, even if later behavior contradicts that initial impression.
3. Marketing: Brands aim to make a strong first impression because the primacy effect means customers are likely to associate their first experience with the brand's overall quality.
The primacy effect explains the saying "the first lie often becomes the truth." People naturally latch onto the first narrative they hear and, due to cognitive biases, are less likely to critically evaluate or accept contradicting evidence later. That's why misinformation, especially when it's the first to spread, can be so powerful—it takes advantage of our tendency to trust the first story.
The Primacy Effect
The primacy effect is a psychological phenomenon where people tend to remember, prioritize, or give more weight to the first piece of information they receive over information they encounter later. It's particularly influential in forming opinions, judgments, or decisions.
How the Primacy Effect Works:
- When we hear or see something for the first time, our brains treat it as foundational information. It becomes a reference point for evaluating everything that follows.
- If conflicting information arises later, it has a harder time overturning that initial impression because the first piece of information is often seen as more credible or trustworthy.
Real-Life Examples:
1. News and Media: When people hear a claim from the first news source they encounter, they're more likely to believe it—even if corrected information emerges later.
2. Interpersonal Relationships: First impressions often dominate how people view someone, even if later behavior contradicts that initial impression.
3. Marketing: Brands aim to make a strong first impression because the primacy effect means customers are likely to associate their first experience with the brand's overall quality.
The primacy effect explains the saying "the first lie often becomes the truth." People naturally latch onto the first narrative they hear and, due to cognitive biases, are less likely to critically evaluate or accept contradicting evidence later. That's why misinformation, especially when it's the first to spread, can be so powerful—it takes advantage of our tendency to trust the first story.
Greatgrandad
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What's that old quote - "A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth puts on its shoes"?
Yep, that's another common saying that goes along with this. I always heard it as "A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth even has a chance to put its boots on". Same thing though lol.
Primacy-- What you learn first, you learn best, and retain the longest.
Greatgrandad
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Even if it is inaccurate...........Sadly.
Petey308, are you cutting and pasting your longer informative posts, from a sourced article, in this thread?
Or are these posts your viewpoints?
Thanks
Or are these posts your viewpoints?
Thanks
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean.
I'm cutting and pasting from a document I already wrote and removed certain things that would conflict with forum rules, but that's it.
These are my views based on my own research over the last few years from looking into the behaviors I've seen on social media and dealt with personally.
It started out as just researching and learning just for myself, but then I thought maybe others could benefit from learning about these things too, so I started writing things out from my research. I have lots of these things discussed in the OP drafted out in sections in my notes app I've typed out over the years. This is just all those thoughts and bits put together with a thesaurus at my side lol. I can thank the Air Force and its method of writing performance reports and awards packages for a lot of my wordings and structure.
This definitely isn't something I have a background in or knew without doing my own independent research in first lol. I'm not an expert in this stuff and I am an aircraft mechanic by trade, not a psychology major or a derivative of it.
I actually sat on this writeup for a long time, tweaking it, but also because I wasn't sure where to post it or if I even should.
I have more similar things I've written as well I'm still sitting on for similar reasons.
