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Brown bear Rifle
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To get down into the weeds in it. One guide talked about the idea people have of shooting a big bear through both shoulders. He said that would stop one if, you snapped them both but man if you just get one and not the other you're going to have a situation. However, he said the same thing about getting both lungs and not just one.
Shot placement and geometry are all critical. It's an exciting challenge when they have the ability to get back at you.
So a .223 will put a brown bear down with a well placed shot? Really?
. That is an interesting proposition. Can't say I have ever heard of anyone that has tried. I would say yes but to C-130 point . Has to be head shot, nice and clean. Nobody usually tries that.
It's an interesting idea.
Grizzly with a .22 Caliber
Bella Twin was a calm, quiet, clear-headed Cree woman with a trap line. May 10, 1957, she killed a massive grizzly bear with her Cooey Ace #1 .22. That was near Slave Lake, Alberta, and the bear Twin killed turned out to be a world record that stood for a good long time.
I agree. A head shot is usually a fatal shot, but there's a huge difference between a head shot with a .223 and a .375.
I would say yes but to C-130 point . Has to be head shot, nice and clean. Nobody usually tries that.
It's an interesting idea.
Grizzly with a .22 Caliber
Bella Twin was a calm, quiet, clear-headed Cree woman with a trap line. May 10, 1957, she killed a massive grizzly bear with her Cooey Ace #1 .22. That was near Slave Lake, Alberta, and the bear Twin killed turned out to be a world record that stood for a good long time.www.bear-hunting.com
I wonder if the bear would know which one he was shot with?
Food for thought.
Perhaps we need to add some variables to make this a more fruitful discussion. I think range is a huge factor in this equation. On both ends, as the caliber of choice may not work well at greater distances, either because it runs out of gas or it is just under powered.
So, let's say 30-06 is the over / under line in terms of caliber and velocity. What distance are comfortable taking on a big bear with the 30-06 (180-200 grain or shooters choice).
What I hope to determine is if some of the smaller stuff gives more confidence to the shooter, if the range is greater or greatly reduced perhaps.
This should be fun.
Food for thought.
Perhaps we need to add some variables to make this a more fruitful discussion. I think range is a huge factor in this equation. On both ends, as the caliber of choice may not work well at greater distances, either because it runs out of gas or it is just under powered.
So, let's say 30-06 is the over / under line in terms of caliber and velocity. What distance are comfortable taking on a big bear with the 30-06 (180-200 grain or shooters choice).
What I hope to determine is if some of the smaller stuff gives more confidence to the shooter, if the range is greater or greatly reduced perhaps.
This should be fun.
It might, but probably not. I wouldn't want to find out personally. You must also use a caliber that has more than a snowballs chance in hell of penatrating far enough to cause lethal damage. A 223 is probably not up to that task.
Case in point; even if you used a 50bmg, a poorly placed shot would probably just **** it off. Badly hurt, maybe. Sure it might slow it down, but just because you are using a large caliber is no guarantee that it will put the animal down. Shot placement is key. Along with selecting a caliber appropriate to the game in question.
Years of experience by hunters taking dangerous game in Africa have dictated minimum calibers for certain game. As an example, the 375HH is the smallest caliber allowed in taking most dangerous game there.
akmtnhnt
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There's a thread 223 for bear elk moose goat etc. Google it. It's very long. It has a ton of photos of folks killing literally everything from browns to small deer to walrus.
I would say yes but to C-130 point . Has to be head shot, nice and clean. Nobody usually tries that.
It's an interesting idea.
Grizzly with a .22 Caliber
Bella Twin was a calm, quiet, clear-headed Cree woman with a trap line. May 10, 1957, she killed a massive grizzly bear with her Cooey Ace #1 .22. That was near Slave Lake, Alberta, and the bear Twin killed turned out to be a world record that stood for a good long time.
With an appropriate bullet at appropriate ranges where that bullet still works, it seems adequate for anything in north America and is used regularly. And not head shots.
Marky_mark
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Don't believe everything your read on the internet
bballard
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Again, you can kill a dinosaur with a 22 if you hit it perfect. Many accomplished archery hunters have killed about everything with a good old bow and arrow. (I'd say they usually have a firearm back up) Just because you can.....doesn't mean it's a good idea..
