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Brakes on a hunting gun

Recoil sensitive. Theres a big difference between being able to handle it and being able to shoot your best. Recoil's effects are cumulative and they degrade your ability to shoot well. A prime example is f-class. A 300 wsm weighing 22lbs with no brake is too much recoil for most to handle and shoot as well as their 284s. Its got nothing to do with being tough, its to do with how well you can shoot. Accuracy trumps everything. Recoil effects you whether you know it or not.
 
Judging from the first page or two, it seems most are in favor of them. I have never liked them. I only ever owned one rifle with a brake and didn't own it long. I am new to this site but not to the game. I am not into the competition anymore. Mostly hunting and the preparation for it. I never liked the percussion created by them and the side blast to me was just plain rude to others, if any in the hunting party. I am speaking of guides. There was a time some guides would not take you if you had a brake. Just for the sake of it, the biggest rifle I currently hunt with is a 280 Rem
If you're hunting with a partner or guide just put them behind or right beside you and use a good side discharge brake that doesn't have sharply back angled ports and it will never be a problem.

For many years I was one of those guys that had been convinced by others you were some kind of wuss for even thinking about a MB or suppressor but I'm long past trying to impress anyone with how tough I can be.

Last year I spent a long afternoon on the range putting a total of over 120 rounds down the tubes of 7mm STW's, 300wm's, 300Rum's and a .375 Ruger. Later that night it dawned on me how many rounds I'd fired and the fact I wasn't the least bit sore with no bruising at all or even a slight bit of redness on the shoulder or cheek in spite of the fact I was just wearing a Tee Shirt.

A good brake is worth it's weight in gold as far as I'm concerned even for a low volume shooter because it enables you to see your hits even at relatively close ranges and that can absolutely be invaluable especially when hunting.
 
Think I've said it elsewhere but firearm weight has a direct relationship to felt recoil and my hunting sticks all weigh under 8 pounds, scoped so they all kick pretty hard. Only one that I own that has a brake is my 338 Lapua and it's not 8 pounds, it's 13 but still needs a brake because I'm not into physical punishment.

I wear Walkers Game Ears when I hunt btw.
 
If you want to really cheap out, get a Fram oil filter and screw that on the muzzle. You get the same sound suppression for $1.99, just don't get caught.
You will get away with that for a few shots from a .22lr but with a center fire rifle you're no more than a few shots away from having it blow up in your face.
 
Hasn't yet. Having said that biggest I've tried it on was a 556 NATO. Really don't matter though, supressors aren't recognized in this state. 10 year felony here.
 
Recoil sensitive. Theres a big difference between being able to handle it and being able to shoot your best. Recoil's effects are cumulative and they degrade your ability to shoot well. A prime example is f-class. A 300 wsm weighing 22lbs with no brake is too much recoil for most to handle and shoot as well as their 284s. Its got nothing to do with being tough, its to do with how well you can shoot. Accuracy trumps everything. Recoil effects you whether you know it or not.


Each person has different tolerances to recoil. It has nothing to do with how tough you are. Some people have a very reactive nervous system and the report of the rifle is the reason they have flinching problems. Others are very low key and have a high resistance to the muzzle report and generally recoil doesn't bother them as much as others. They are no tougher, just a more laid back nervous system.

Then there are those that are brain dead and any recoil is Ok. I am somewhere between the last two and can shoot anything within reason, but in all honesty, I will tell my self that the rifle is not fun and I wont shoot it many times before it is not fun. Everyone has their comfort zone and their tolerance level and just because they can handle more recoil doesn't make them any tougher.

Recoil velocity is different than recoil energy and different people handle it differently. I can shoot a heavy big bore rifle that has 80 to 90 ft/lbs of recoil, and 7,000 ft/lbs of energy, and has a velocity of 2400 ft/sec. but has a recoil velocity of 20 ft/sec compared to big 30 cal magnums that have a recoil velocity of 35 to 40 ft/sec. even though the energy is greater the recoil velocity is less and the term "Push" is normally used to described the big heavy rifles with low recoil velocity. so recoil velocity is how "fast" the rifle transfers the energy to you.

The way we deal with all of this is to go to smaller cartridges and just don't shoot the larger cartridges or Install a muzzle and continue shooting what you want to. No question that muzzle brakes have their down side but they also have there up side. And less shooter abuse And better accuracy are the up side. hearing protection is a non issue when shooting to prevent hearing loss. Ear protection should be used any time you are firing a high powered rifle.

Some of my biggest cartridges and rifle don,t have muzzle brakes and have low recoil velocity. some of my smaller caliber rifles are lighter and due to the recoil velocity are definitely not fun to shoot without a brake. By reducing the recoil energy, we also reduce the recoil velocity A win win in my opinion on some of my rifles.

Another up side to a brake is better shooter accuracy. If he is not afraid or at least subconsciously thinking about recoil, he will do a better job of concentrating on hold, trigger control, breathing, site picture and many other things that make you a better shot. The hardest shot on a hard kicking rifle or pistol is the first one where you have to think about what is going to happen when you pull the trigger. Once you make the first shot and realize that even though it kicked like a mule, it didn't injure you, the next shot is easier.

If you have target panic, the best way to fix it is reduce the recoil. How you do that is up to you. I am just not willing to give my long range hunting rifle because I don't want/like muzzle brakes. recoil can be managed and muzzle brakes are just one way. adding enough weight is another, But who wants to carry a 25 pound rifle around.

Alex is dead on about accuracy degrading at distance as recoil goes up and distance is the name of this game.

Just My opinion

J E CUSTOM
 
OK....talk to me people. Interested in hearing from those that hunt with muzzle brakes.

I wore out my heavy barrel on my 7mm Rem Mag. I ended up putting a #3 bartlein on it because I was tired of lugging a 15lb rifle into the backcountry. I'm not recoil sensitive in the least, but with the missing weight in the barrel I'm fighting some muzzle jump that I've never had to deal with before.

I'm thinking about putting a brake on her to help manage the recoil and get the gun to track better. My question is: Have any of you regretted doing it? What kind of hearing protection are you using while hunting?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts, advice and opinions. I've never had a braked rifle before and I keep going back and forth on the idea.
Not something to think about.....just do it....and yes don't ever do it without hearing protection...or do it three times without and you will never forget again. I like the electronic muffs..slim line muffs work great.You can carry on normal conversation and still be ready instantly to shoot. If you can easily reduce recoil by 30-40% your body will thank you and in most cases for casual shooters your accuracy will improve!
 
*opinion warming* Using a variety of shooting positions changes how you manage recoil, from one position to another, even if slightly.... this can impact POI.

HENCE, If I am able to diminish recoil it would stand to reason that I could diminish any POI shift as a result of change in position.

On my hunting rifle I use a radial brake as opposed to a tactical brake... be sure to wear hearing protection.

Good hunting.
 
You will get away with that for a few shots from a .22lr but with a center fire rifle you're no more than a few shots away from having it blow up in your face.

I'd certainly like to know the physics of your comment. I may have to try one on my 338 Lapua but it will have to be one of those bigger Frams...lol
 
I do suffer from target panic, so keeping recoil at a minumin is nice. But the thing I like best about a MB is keeping the gun on target to see impact. All 4 of my 6.5 Grendel's have light recoil, but jump off target most of the time. The muzzle brakes help keep the scopes on target.
 
OK....talk to me people. Interested in hearing from those that hunt with muzzle brakes.

I wore out my heavy barrel on my 7mm Rem Mag. I ended up putting a #3 bartlein on it because I was tired of lugging a 15lb rifle into the backcountry. I'm not recoil sensitive in the least, but with the missing weight in the barrel I'm fighting some muzzle jump that I've never had to deal with before.

I'm thinking about putting a brake on her to help manage the recoil and get the gun to track better. My question is: Have any of you regretted doing it? What kind of hearing protection are you using while hunting?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts, advice and opinions. I've never had a braked rifle before and I keep going back and forth on the idea.
OK....talk to me people. Interested in hearing from those that hunt with muzzle brakes.

I wore out my heavy barrel on my 7mm Rem Mag. I ended up putting a #3 bartlein on it because I was tired of lugging a 15lb rifle into the backcountry. I'm not recoil sensitive in the least, but with the missing weight in the barrel I'm fighting some muzzle jump that I've never had to deal with before.

I'm thinking about putting a brake on her to help manage the recoil and get the gun to track better. My question is: Have any of you regretted doing it? What kind of hearing protection are you using while hunting?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts, advice and opinions. I've never had a braked rifle before and I keep going back and forth on the idea.
 
I have a limit on how heavy a stick I go hunting with. My upper limit is 8 pounds scoped and loaded. I'm 70 and I'm not lugging a tank along and I cannot afford a porter to carry one.
 
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