Best bullets to load subsonic for 300blackout

[Kyle Overman]

Another vouch for the Maker's Rex 200gr...

I'd hunt anything with these that you would hunt with a broadhead. Max range 150 yards and IIRC, with my load at 1050fps I zeroed at 75 yards and that gave a point blank range of 100 yards.

IIRC?

 

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

NOT FOR US
Then barrel at a 16.5" in 300BK
Need infor for him
Will try our 30cal suppressor to test his short 30cal bout, we have all the connections,
have to go to bed Jill Said NOW Loud, aignong off

 

[Kyle Overman]

Berrys makes great plated lead bullets for blaster ammo - but for expansion the Makers are still much better, I wouldn't shoot a Berrys into an animal.

But I do shoot the heck out of Berrys in 300 BLK into targets through, at about 1/3rd of the cost of Makers they're what I use for else other than animals - I've made 500 yard subsonic hits with them, and I prefer them over the 109 Sub-X and 220 SMK.

Do you have any Load data for the berry's bullets?

 

[QuietTexan]

Are these the bullets from berry's?

300 Blackout 220 Grain | 300 Blackout Reloading Bullets

These 300 Blackout 220 Grain bullets have a spire point and are some of the best 300 AAC Blackout reloading bullets you can buy for accuracy and precision.

www.berrysmfg.com

That's them. Plated lead, in theory at their hardness (or rather softness) they will deform somewhat on impact, but nothing compared to the Rex bullets that expand and cut.

IIRC?

If I Recall Correctly

Do you have any Load data for the berry's bullets?

16" Bolt: No Berry's here but the 220 SMK is similar:

Brand	Model	Weight	Primer	Powder	Charge	COL	FPS Act
Sierra	HPBT	220	R7.5	Lil'Gun	8.5​	2.230​	1002
Sierra	HPBT	220	R7.5	H110	9.4​	2.230​	1008
Sierra	HPBT	220	R7.5	Blackout	11.6​	2.230​	1064
Sierra	HPBT	175	R7.5	Lil'Gun	14.1​	2.230​	1777
Hornady	Sub-X	190	R7.5	Lil'Gun	8.5​	2.073​	1102
Hornady	Sub-X	190	R7.5	H110	9.4​	2.073​	1062
Hornady	Sub-X	190	R7.5	IMR 4227	10.2​	2.073​	1027
Hornady	Sub-X	190	R7.5	Blackout	11.6​	2.073​	1036
Makers	T-Rex	200	R7.5	Lil'Gun	7.8​	2.100​	1005

9" BCM:

Brand	Model	Weight	Primer	Powder	Charge	COL	FPS Act
Berrys	Spire Point	220	Fed-SAR	A1680	11.2	2.230​	994
Berrys	Spire Point	220	Fed-SAR	A1680	11.5	2.230​	957
Berrys	Spire Point	220	Fed-SAR	A1680	11.8	2.230​	981

These were generally accuracy loads, velocity was secondary so long as they stayed subsonic, other than the one intentionally supersonic load. To my ear Lil'Gun is the quietest of these powders.

 

[Kyle Overman]

That's them. Plated lead, in theory at their hardness (or rather softness) they will deform somewhat on impact, but nothing compared to the Rex bullets that expand and cut.


If I Recall Correctly


16" Bolt: No Berry's here but the 220 SMK is similar:

Brand	Model	Weight	Primer	Powder	Charge	COL	FPS Act
Sierra	HPBT	220	R7.5	Lil'Gun	8.5​	2.230​	1002
Sierra	HPBT	220	R7.5	H110	9.4​	2.230​	1008
Sierra	HPBT	220	R7.5	Blackout	11.6​	2.230​	1064
Sierra	HPBT	175	R7.5	Lil'Gun	14.1​	2.230​	1777
Hornady	Sub-X	190	R7.5	Lil'Gun	8.5​	2.073​	1102
Hornady	Sub-X	190	R7.5	H110	9.4​	2.073​	1062
Hornady	Sub-X	190	R7.5	IMR 4227	10.2​	2.073​	1027
Hornady	Sub-X	190	R7.5	Blackout	11.6​	2.073​	1036
Makers	T-Rex	200	R7.5	Lil'Gun	7.8​	2.100​	1005

9" BCM:

Brand	Model	Weight	Primer	Powder	Charge	COL	FPS Act
Berrys	Spire Point	220	Fed-SAR	A1680	11.2	2.230​	994
Berrys	Spire Point	220	Fed-SAR	A1680	11.5	2.230​	957
Berrys	Spire Point	220	Fed-SAR	A1680	11.8	2.230​	981

These were generally accuracy loads, velocity was secondary so long as they stayed subsonic, other than the one intentionally supersonic load. To my ear Lil'Gun is the quietest of these powders.

Do you have load data using lil gun powder out of a 16" bolt action or know where to find it?

 

[Deviant]

Lehigh Defense

I have used a butt load of Lehigh bullets for years and had great success but unfortunately They sold and have now priced themselves out of the market. I will now be redoing load development for several rifles. I use 220 gr SMK for 300 blk sub.

 

[QuietTexan]

Do you have load data using lil gun powder out of a 16" bolt action or know where to find it?

It's in the chart, 8.5gn for a 220 to 1002FPS. You should start higher and work down a ladder - starting point would be ~11gn and work down.

If you mean in general, via Hodgdon:

Reloading Data Center

www.hodgdonreloading.com

Plug in the cartridge you want, select Lil'Gun, it'll list all the info for that cartridge out by bullet weight.

 

[Mike D Texas]

It's in the chart, 8.5gn for a 220 to 1002FPS. You should start higher and work down a ladder - starting point would be ~11gn and work down.

Very good advice and over looked by most reloaders when working up, errr down a subsonic load.

 

[slickyboyboo]

Do you know what powder they recommend for that bullet?

I have used Lil'Gun, H110/W296, Alliant Steel, HiSkor 700x.

 

[Rich Coyle]

Maybe I missed it, but you might try Outlaw 208 grainers.

 

[Primative]

I do not reload yet, but there are a number of small custom ammo loaders that use Maker bullets such as Druid Hill, TNT Munitions, Center Mass, etc. Does anyone know if any of these companies produce a safe and somewhat accurate load?

 

[QuietTexan]

Don't know about those, but Gorilla Ammo is good:

Gorilla Punisher Series, 300 BLK 205gr, Subsonic Ammunition - 20 Round Box | Gorilla Ammunition

Gorilla Ammo | Buy 300 Blackout 205 Grain | 20 Round Box | Self Defense & Hunting Subsonic Ammunition | 300 BLK ammo for sale

www.gorillaammo.com

I bought some loaded 8.6 BLK from them that was good stuff (while waiting on my Makers bullets to arive), got buried in pigs and ordered 100 300 BLK to get a second gun running, turns out they shoot pretty good. Looks the same as Makers from the outside, works as good too.

 

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

Just on the subject of SubSonic
What is a good load/bullet for a .223??? SubSonic
We really don't need for the noise reduction with a suppressor and velocity under 1,125 fps. Just curious.

 

[Huckleberry75]

4.5-5 gn of trail boss behind a 65gn SGK in 223, iirc