No pitchforks, but I prefer my bullets to expand, that is why I chose to stop using the 147's. Two videoed, documented and photographed shots at 980 yards on a pronghorn where they entered and exited acting like a full metal jacket with zero expansion and very little internal damage, I felt, was enough evidence for myself. Also the fact that in 13 kills, I had three of them not exit. With the 140 Berger, in the neighborhood of 30 kills, never once did a bullet fail to exit. As far as any other eld-m or eld-x, I have not tested them and they may very well be fantastic. I can't say either way.
As far as my hilarious suggestion, none of the "target" bullets were designed for hunting, that is why the box saus "target". However that doesn't mean they don't work for such a use, I obviously believe this as I use them. As an example, bergers were not intentionally designed for hunting, but they worked, however they found that the jackets on their original design would sometimes come apart under heavy stress (long shot strings, rough bores, extreme velocities, etc.) So they designed their "target" bullets with a thicker jacket to hold up ti more abuse. The difference between the target and hunting line, other than the jacket, is that the target line haven't been tested in ballistic gel by the company, at least not that they advertise.
I'm honestly just suprised that feathers got ruffled simply because I made a statement that the brand new, untested, zero terminal ballistic knowledge known A-Tip bullet was not designed for hunting, because it wasn't. And already so much defensiveness. Never once did I say it won't work for it. Simply that the 156 Berger is being designed for hunting, as opposed to the A-tip bullet.
That is far enough off subject however. Still waiting to hear from Berger.