Berger 300wm ammo

[Okanogan]

I used the a 215 to take a 300 lb black bear a couple years ago. It hammered the bear and expanded a lot before passing through. It left small jacket fragments in some of the meat but I have had similar experience on heavier constructed bullets meant for hunting. I believe Broz was a proponent of the 215 for use on elk so I think consensus on the site would lean toward it works well on game.

 

[OhYtD]

I believe they moved production facilities and so the supply dried up a bit but last I heard they were running full tilt to get stocked up again

 

[WildRose]

Understood, Wildrose. And Lord knows, the Win is far more widespread than the RUM.

You are also correct about the recoil and I have to admit being something of a recoil wuss.

I'm not afraid to admit that I am as well. The solution is heavier rifles and better brakes because I do like the powerhouses.

This is coming from a guy that regularly shoots three STW's, 3 300wm's, 3 Rum's and 2 375R's.

Honestly I'm still amazed at how much I enjoy the 375R's.

 

[WildRose]

Brush buster: Since this is your thread, if you consider this next question a hijack, please say so, and I will remove the post--but I think the question is not too far out in left field because it involves the same caliber and bullet we are discussing:

Let's say I measure the COAL of the Berger factory 215 grain ammo. Then let us further say that I shoot it and have the good luck that it is perfect for my rifle.

Now, regardless of who makes the brass for Berger, I full-length resize the brass and load the Berger bullets to a depth sufficient to achieve the exact same COAL. Can I then say that I have chosen the exactly correct bullet seating depth?

(I realize that I have not duplicated the powder charge or the primer, and those variables might or might not affect velocity and accuracy--my question relates to proper COAL for that rifle.)

Thanks very much,

Russ

No, not necessarily. You might find an even better seating depth with a little tweaking.

 

[just country]

morning, 340wbee, 210gr. TTSX barnes. to me
none better. very accurate. justme gbot tum

 

[Droppndrakes]

For you guys with 300 WM's shooting this round well, do you have a Sammi spec reamer or how did you have your gun chambered??

 

[Okanogan]

I'm using what GAP calls their Naval Special Warfare reamer. It is not SAMMI. The lands are something like a COAL of 3.79 for a Berger 215.
I doubt you can shoot in a SAMMI chamber as the COAL for the Applied Ballistics Ammo I have is 3.60 inches which is longer than SAMMI. Applied Ballistics used to have a footnote on their site to warn customers about the longer COAL. Not sure how Berger handles it now that they bought out the Applied Ballistics line.

 

[Overkill338]

What features has Berger mixed for it to be called "Hybrid". See, in my thinking, I was hoping they found a way to make their bullets actually appropriate for hunting, but still fly like the 210 VLD I was using before for paper.

 

[highdrum]

What features has Berger mixed for it to be called "Hybrid". See, in my thinking, I was hoping they found a way to make their bullets actually appropriate for hunting, but still fly like the 210 VLD I was using before for paper.

Hybrid is a reference to the ogive, it's not tangent or vld, but a HYBRID of the two. More consistent in form and measurement, but less sensitive to seating depth.

 

[Will83]

For you guys with 300 WM's shooting this round well, do you have a Sammi spec reamer or how did you have your gun chambered??

I am using a Proof carbon fiber savage prefit on a Bighorn TL3. If I'm not bad wrong, they said that they used a tac-match reamer. I think it is the same one that Tac ops uses. It's been a while since I studied on it, so my above statements could be off. I'm just going from memory right now. I don't have my reloading book nearby right now, but I can load them "way-out" before I hit the lands. I think it was originally made with 210's in mind, but I almost run out of bearing surface if I put the 210 vld's to the lands with it. Works great with the 215's. And yes, the Berger ammo is not to saami lengths.

 

[wildcat455]

215 gr Hybrid Target has a tangent/secant ogive, ergo, "Hybrid". if I'm not mistaken, it was designed (or redesigned) by Brian Litz for Berger.
They shoot fine out of my Ruger RPR, both my Remington 700's, my Christensen Arms, and my Fierce. Speed is just under 2900 fps, like 2850-2890 FPS all out of 26" barrel except 1 27" 5R Bartlien.

I reload, and can create tailored ammo for my rifles so the cost isn't justified for me, but it's nice to know it's out there and it works in my rifles if I get in a pinch. That's why I bought a couple boxes to try.

 

[Overkill338]

Off topic question.... Does Nosler still make the 125 BT in .308" ? Are those medium game bullets, or will they make good Groundhog pills from a 300 WM ?