Bear protection handguns?

[WYO300RUM]

In Arkansas or other areas with only black bears, cougars, and wolves I wouldn't feel under gunned with a 10mm. Or a 357 magnum for that matter.

Wolves in Arkansas ? Have elk tho !

 

[xsn10s]

Wolves in Arkansas ? Have elk tho !

That's true I haven't heard of any there,..... yet.

 

[xsn10s]

My point was the 10mm is a fine cartridge. The revolvers might have an advantage of using wide, flat metplat. I haven't tried a 10mm with such a hardcast design, but I imagine there could be feed issues.

 

[WYO300RUM]

If your slinging a rifle, I'd say your an easy defenseless meal. A sidearm allows easier access when hauling a pack, even with bow in hand. Even then it's rolling the dice on deploying it in a last minute close encounter. Much rather have a long gun in hands in that scenario. Your pretty handicapped with archery equipment while hunting with bow in hand. I'd agree on the Ti weight issue for sure. More recoil, less weight. A trade off for sure. With a chest rig, weight isn't as much a factor for me within reason. I do see myself using my 4" .44 mag in the chest rig on trips more than prior to having that set up. In most cases and most locations I hunt, the G20 will be a better choice. Lions are most of what live in those areas. Black bears also.

There was a father and son about 10 -12 years ago here that were bow hunting elk. A griz attacked the son . The dad got one quick shot off. Don't remember where arrow hit. Chest I think. Killed bear. Son got mauled pretty bad. I bet they carry pistols now...I held the scull from that bear. Was a sow if I remember correctly . Also saw a pic of a griz laying over top of a dead elk that was shot. Caption could of been "come and take it".

 

[WYO300RUM]

My point was the 10mm is a fine cartridge. The revolvers might have an advantage of using wide, flat metplat. I haven't tried a 10mm with such a hardcast design, but I imagine there could be feed issues.

Was just messin with ya.

 

[Rick Richard]

Was just messin with ya.

I had a Glock 10mm model 40 and had no issues shooting hard cast flat nose bullets. Did lead up the barrel though.

 

[VLD Pilot]

I had a Glock 10mm model 40 and had no issues shooting hard cast flat nose bullets. Did lead up the barrel though.

The Glock factory barrels foul fast from lead due the polygonal rifling. There fairly accurate barrels for what there designed for but much better customs out there. Bought a Bar Sto barrel. Huge difference in both fouling reduction and accuracy. Shoots 1.5" 50 yard groups easily. That's the barrel, not me. It out shoots me all day.

 

[skipglo]

I was thinking same thing. If in fear of your life it's close enough. Same as if someone breaks into your home when you are there. Are you going to wait to see if they have a gun ? No. You want the advantage . If they know you are home then they are either armed or drugged out. I don't want to wait to see if it's a bluff from a bear. Thanks for your xln

Cardinal rule when threatened by anything....always shoot first..what comes next...either shovel and shut-up or if weak of spirit...ask forgiveness...either way....YOU ARE STILL HERE!.....


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[WYO300RUM]

Cardinal rule when threatened by anything....always shoot first..what comes next...either shovel and shut-up or if weak of spirit...ask forgiveness...either way....YOU ARE STILL HERE!.....


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Amen to that .

 

[ButterBean]

Cardinal rule when threatened by anything....always shoot first..what comes next...either shovel and shut-up or if weak of spirit...ask forgiveness...either way....YOU ARE STILL HERE!.....


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ShoNuff

 

[Treeslug]

Cardinal rule when threatened by anything....always shoot first..what comes next...either shovel and shut-up or if weak of spirit...ask forgiveness...either way....YOU ARE STILL HERE!.....


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Had a hijacker come running out of a restaurant he had just robbed. His getaway driver saw me and roared out of the parking lot. The hijacker was holding the money in one hand and chasing the driver while trying to stick his .45 Colt 1911 down the front of his pants. HE SHOT FIRST--but he is sadly, no longer STILL HERE. His junk was pretty well gone and his femoral artery stopped pumping blood a foot into the air after about a half a minute or so later. But he did shoot FIRST.

 

[Pdvdh]

Tough way to make a living, robbing restaurants. How many restaurants does one have to rob, to survive over a lifetime?

Evidently not so many, if you also suck as an armed robber. Shoot yourself and die in the process. Or someone else takes you down.

Short-lived career, either way...

 

[WYO300RUM]

Tough way to make a living, robbing restaurants. How many restaurants does one have to rob, to survive over a lifetime?

Evidently not so many, if you also suck as an armed robber. Shoot yourself and die in the process. Or someone else takes you down.

Short-lived career, either way...

I like your thinking .

 

[MZmoose]

Those with a law enforcement background know how ineffective pepper spray can be. They would also know that if there's a chance your going to be in a gunfight, you bring a rifle, and all your friends with their rifles. Handguns are for when you don't think you'll need a gun. For bears, bring the most powerful handgun you can carry and draw quickly. I would personally carry something bigger than a 10mm. Just read a hunting article where a black bear hunter paid to be guided into the wilderness on horseback and he used a 10mm AR style SBR to shoot his black bear broadside at 50 yds. He lost it and didn't recover it. A .30-30 would have been a better choice....IMO