Ballistic Turret vs Hold Over Lines

[Ingwe]

I will bet if you took 75% of hunters out and put something at 400 yards and asked the how far without using a range finder they will be off by 50 yards or more.

And you are being generous with 50yds

 

[L.Sherm]

Heres my take, theres about 10" drop on a big majority of hunting rifles from 300 to 400 if I dont have the time to range it at 400 I wont take the shot. If you dont have time to range it you dont have time for a solid rest.
How many people can take that shot free hand.

 

[L.Sherm]

Let me rephrase, how many can take the free hand shot at 400 accurately.

 

[Orange Dust]

Let me rephrase, how many can take the free hand shot at 400 accurately.

Only a fool would try. What we are saying is if you sight your rifle this way you know where to hold to 400. You can use what time you do have to get solid for the shot. No laser, no bs, point and shoot. Usually in this case the game is moving. If he sees or winds you its most likely game over anyway unless you already have the gun on him and are ready for the shot.

 

[Ingwe]

Let me rephrase, how many can take the free hand shot at 400 accurately.

NOT ME and I bet 99.9% can't either

 

[Orange Dust]

NOT ME and I bet 99.9% can't either

I most likely could back when i was shooting silhoutte all the time, but never was foolish enough to try it on game. Did learn to control a trigger doing it though.

 

[Coyote_Hunter]

And you are being generous with 50yds

Yup.

 

[Orange Dust]

Actually if you are ranging your surroundings or hunting fields its not that hard to determine if you are within the point blank range of your rig. You just learn if its close enough or not far enough that you are not sure get the laser... it just isnt that complicated.

 

[BountyHunter]

I took a deer 2 nov at 573 yards with a 280 ai and simple moa reticle lines. Simple quick and accurate out to 700 or so. Not that difficult. Over that dialing is the best.

 

[L.Sherm]

I guess my point is if you got time to find a steady rest you got time to range the yardage it only takes a few seconds if you keep your range finder handy.

 

[L.Sherm]

I spot and stalk so you cant just range things around you all the time, yardage is always changing.

 

[L.Sherm]

What we are saying is if you sight your rifle this way you know where to hold to 400.

Yeah but if you dontt range it how do you know it might be 450 instead of 400.
Your scenario might be fine of your stationary in a blind or box stand, but not for us that hunt in the Mountains

 

[Orange Dust]

The whole point is the closer an animal is the more likely the need to shoot quickly. You guys are way overthinking this.

 

[L.Sherm]

I'm not overthinking anything, the vast majority of hunters cannot just look at an animal and determine its 400, 450 or 350 without lasering it first.