Announcing the New Hammer HHT

[Calvin45]

Now you guys got me thinking…be an interesting experiment to have bullets made to be DELIBERATELY non concentric by varying degrees and see how much it affects things, and if it does (surely it must?) is there a point under which it doesn't matter? Like if point of a turned copper solid is actually a few thousandths deviated from true centre vs a few tens of thousands…is the relationship linear? The more "out of round" the less accurate…or maybe there's some surprises to be had

 

[Gregg C]

You are correct, it won't hurt anything, now if they had a scratch in them it would be a different story

Yeah, I can see how that would be. The scratch would really disrupt airflow on the meplat. That.....would suck.

 

[Kiwi Greg]

Now you guys got me thinking…be an interesting experiment to have bullets made to be DELIBERATELY non concentric by varying degrees and see how much it affects things, and if it does (surely it must?) is there a point under which it doesn't matter? Like if point of a turned copper solid is actually a few thousandths deviated from true centre vs a few tens of thousands…is the relationship linear? The more "out of round" the less accurate…or maybe there's some surprises to be had

I started tipping .375 425gr Cutting Edge projectiles well before they released their Lazer line to help with terminal performance

I made the MTH HP deeper by 2+ times & enlarged the diameter to accept the early Hornady V-Max "melty" tips

This was done a wee bit agriculturally in a lathe which resulted in a few blemish's, off set/bent/loose tips, too big a flat causing a step under the tip etc

These projectiles still shot just as accurately as the "perfect" ones I made or the untouched ones at 2K yards

What I noticed was the tipped ones were constantly 2 moa lower impact at distance even though they were slightly lighter & faster with the same zero

My conclusion was I had reduced the BC by tipping them

 

[bob812]

Now you guys got me thinking…be an interesting experiment to have bullets made to be DELIBERATELY non concentric by varying degrees and see how much it affects things, and if it does (surely it must?) is there a point under which it doesn't matter? Like if point of a turned copper solid is actually a few thousandths deviated from true centre vs a few tens of thousands…is the relationship linear? The more "out of round" the less accurate…or maybe there's some surprises to be had

Not really the same thing but F-Class John did a video on bullet run out that's pretty interesting.

 

[Gregg C]

I started tipping .375 425gr Cutting Edge projectiles well before they released their Lazer line to help with terminal performance

I made the MTH HP deeper by 2+ times & enlarged the diameter to accept the early Hornady V-Max "melty" tips

This was done a wee bit agriculturally in a lathe which resulted in a few blemish's, off set/bent/loose tips, too big a flat causing a step under the tip etc

These projectiles still shot just as accurately as the "perfect" ones I made or the untouched ones at 2K yards

What I noticed was the tipped ones were constantly 2 moa lower impact at distance even though they were slightly lighter & faster with the same zero

My conclusion was I had reduced the BC by tipping them

I like that "a wee bit agriculturally ". Nice way of saying rednecked!! I can say that cause I are one!!

 

[GLTaylor]

Actually, Fordy and friends intentionally distressed the tips on several of the prototype HHTs during testing in Australia.

They wanted to see what differences in terminal performance were observable with different tip configurations.

Some bullets were shot into animals with no tip installed. Others, they ground the tips down and made the tips flat/blunt.

Final results were the standard tip performed the best overall, by a good margin.

Minor imperfections/dimples in the tips probably have no downside at all - other than cosmetic - in a hunting projectile.

As Butterbean noted, scratches or other imperfections on the base of the bullet would probably be a greater concern

 

[Calvin45]

I started tipping .375 425gr Cutting Edge projectiles well before they released their Lazer line to help with terminal performance

I made the MTH HP deeper by 2+ times & enlarged the diameter to accept the early Hornady V-Max "melty" tips

This was done a wee bit agriculturally in a lathe which resulted in a few blemish's, off set/bent/loose tips, too big a flat causing a step under the tip etc

These projectiles still shot just as accurately as the "perfect" ones I made or the untouched ones at 2K yards

What I noticed was the tipped ones were constantly 2 moa lower impact at distance even though they were slightly lighter & faster with the same zero

My conclusion was I had reduced the BC by tipping them

Thanks for sharing. Fascinating

 

[3chester]

No such thing as a guy that will put in tips all day. McDonalds starts at $20 an hr here.

Yep, probably long gone those Norman Rockwell days of WWII, when Rosie the Riveter was just a lady down the block, would show up for dollar an hour wages.

 

[BEEMAN]

Yes it's Kirby's and I don't have one, just a guesstimate. I don't blame you on the bolt face.
I'm hoping they tip the 90gr Absolute Hammer. I may have to try some 6mm HHT's, plus I want one of those copper blocks.

I was curious too. Ordered some 75 gr HHT in 6mm to try in my 6 Dasher. Also a sample pack of the 55 HH just to see how fast the little Dasher can push them.

 

[dustbag]

I was curious too. Ordered some 75 gr HHT in 6mm to try in my 6 Dasher. Also a sample pack of the 55 HH just to see how fast the little Dasher can push them.

I ordered the 75s for a dasher too. I'm gonna try them in my 28" barrel. If fast enough thought i chamber in a 24" for varmints or deer off the deck. I'd be curious to see what u get for speeds 75 & 55s

 

[QuietTexan]

Now you guys got me thinking…be an interesting experiment to have bullets made to be DELIBERATELY non concentric by varying degrees and see how much it affects things, and if it does (surely it must?) is there a point under which it doesn't matter?

We could argue about whether straight holes or corkscrew holes wounds more

 

[Calvin45]

We could argue about whether straight holes or corkscrew holes wounds more

Ahhhh! I hadn't even thought of that!!!

I see your "hammer" and raise you a corkscrew!

Back a few years ago hornady had a "get loaded" promotion.

Hammer needs to do a "get hammered" one…they even make copper mugs now

But I think if we make these hypothetical bullets a "get screwed" sales pitch may not be so popular

 

[Gregg C]

Ahhhh! I hadn't even thought of that!!!

I see your "hammer" and raise you a corkscrew!

Back a few years ago hornady had a "get loaded" promotion.

Hammer needs to do a "get hammered" one…they even make copper mugs now

But I think if we make these hypothetical bullets a "get screwed" sales pitch may not be so popular

Thats some funny stuff!!

 

[jessej]

Hammer needs to do a "get hammered" one…they even make copper mugs now

But I think if we make these hypothetical bullets a "get screwed" sales pitch may not be so popular

I like the way you think.