as I am sitting here reading all the great feedback I think I have reached a few conclusions. My future gun will be used mostly for 500 yards and in, mostly for deer. I want a rifle I can learn to be proficient with and still use for elk one day. I'm thinking the 7mm would probably be the most versatile but the long range hunter looks so big and cumbersome. I like the 11/111 fcns because it has the accustock, is lighter, and easier to carry. I know I said I would love to not be limited so I have the option to shoot at further distances but I like the .30 cal bullet. I'm wondering if I just go with the 30.06 in either the savage or tikka with the 22 inch barrel and just put great optics in and learn to be super proficient with it even out to longer distances than 500 yards in case the opportunity comes a long. i know it's not a flat shooting cartridge. I just don't know why I like the 30.06 so much. Maybe it's because it's the only deer rifle I have shot. That is why I want someone else with far more experience to talk me out of it. There are too many variables and I am going to drive myself crazy trying to decide.