916 yards on steel - sitting with shooting sticks

Great post and thanks for the reminder Len.

I have my first western hunt scheduled for October for NM Elk.

I've been working hard on fitness after losing 40ish pounds last year and load development on my rifle. Most of ranges are 300 but it do have a place that goes out to 600.

My plan is to work on the basics at 100-200 with my 17hmr any chance I get and go from there with the centerfire.
 
Great Post Len !
I'm still have a little trouble laying prone after my Open Heart Surgery. I'm healed up but it sure is uncomfortable to lay down very long.
I use my Harris extended bi- pod to do my Hunting shooting. I spend lots of time at the range for practice . Shot my Elk this past fall at 1244 yrds. On my but back against the back pack bi-pod fully extended out .
I'm going to do more shooting this way !
Practice makes Perfect !
Thank's Len for having a great Forum to belong too !!

Rum Man
 
Thanks for the thread brother Len,,, nothing like putting the fire under our butt's to get us moving...

I'm off to the range today to settle into my lawn-chair and use my home made shooting sticks...

Most of my shots at 200 meters as I re-learn how to breath an attempt to compress the group size down range...

There will be lots of time to practic the dry firing in the hot club house threw the peep window that faces down range...

Once i have my CDO in intact,,, I'll take the show onto the firing line to see what happens...

A bit of memory work as i try to remember to breath and follow threw with the shot...
Hopefully numb brain is active when the shots goes off... Ha...

Nothing like getting the 2020 season parctic underway now that it warmed up to -20c with a 20 mpr cross wind...

Healthy breathing on days like this...

Cheers from the North
 
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Learning curve 101 is underway,,, Lol

Time to do some more reading on the subject,,, and get at it with the 22 rimfire...

Pretty disappointing day yesterday,,, but I'm glad to know that i need to up my game plan... sticks for standing,,, kneeling,,, and sitting...

Maybe this old dog can learn new tricks...

Cheers from the North
 
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I built my own hip shooting stick,,, its not as precision as my Harrison or Remple by-pod...
A little bit of modifying for the home made hip stick...



My friend made his own many years ago for a bit of extra support to get quicker / cleaner shots off,,, it allows him to jack in the next round while staying on target...

So last night he lead me threw a practice session on how to quickly deploy the hip stick and go into forward attack mode while keeping my knees partly bent and move forward engaging the targets in his shop,,, Ha...

We picked 20 hand size objects threw out his shop as I engaged each 1 in dry-fire mode,,, then I'd proceed forward to the next,,, very challenging keeping my feet planted,,, leaning foward to prepare for recoil,,, and keeping my under-body and shooting form intact...

It's kind of like a lunge fencing stance,,, he wants me to parctice this 7 to 10 times each day in dry-fire mode,,, it builds up memory mass / form... Engage smoothly/ steady/ and fast onto each object in my shop,,, house/ out-doors... the trick is to pop-off the trigger in the heart of the object... LOL

I'm ordering a few hip sticks later today since it will benifit my bush hunting and something else to practice at the shooting range,,, this idea is a benifit for my medium heavy barrel rifle,,, much easier to hold and support between the dry-fire shots...

Watch "Hip Stick Instructional Video" on YouTube
 
The "Hipstick" is interesting and nice for stand or still hunting. But it's impractical for backpack hunting due to its weight.

So far the Quick StiX solution is the lightest and fastest solution I've found.

Eric B.
 
I have just extracted this content of my own from December of 2014, that I wrote from deep down in a long 2 year old thread started by someone else..

My content (below) makes a good base for discussion on seated shooting technique and it was kind of lost where initially posted.

It relies on the following:

Tips For Small Groups From Sitting Field Position

  1. Solid rear anchor for rifle stock
  2. Support shooting arm/elbow (sometimes by leaning back into the hill)
  3. Setup so your feet are lower than your butt if you can
  4. Check list: level, parallax, dope, etc.
  5. Setup for consistent recoil off sticks
  6. Range with environmental inputs

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December, 2014
Here are my newest, best groups shot at distance using shooting sticks yesterday.

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This winter and spring we'll be working on fresh new material to present at the LRH-NTO Shooting Classes (CLICK HERE) to be held in the mountains of western Wyoming next August. In the classes we teach plenty of prone style shooting but one of the ways our classes are unique is that we also spend a lot of time on real life positions other than prone.

Too often prone just isn't available, whether you're sitting in a bed of sagebrush in Oregon or a field of CRP in the midwest or up at 8,000 feet on the steep slopes of the mountain west. And if the range is much over 300 yards most hunters are simply not up to the task of taking a clean shot on big game from a seated position.

Yesterday before my Green Bay Packers trounced the Detroit Lions I was at my friend's hunting land, refining my own long range seated shooting sticks technique in order to be better able to teach the subject. My shooting spot is high up on a snow-covered hill but just below its crown. My bullets from there fly first over many rows of pine seedlings and then over a harvested corn field where I shot four tasty whitetails just last month. I set out 2 steel targets at 916 yards on the far hillside beyond the cornfield and beneath a huge oak tree.

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My first 2 three shot groups were fired while using the new Rudolph Optics Quad Sticks plus my optics tripod plàced under my right armpit for shooting arm support. The feeling of absolutely no left-right jiggle builds great confidence in a shooter using the quad sticks. I have found that the armpit support makes the "vertical" part of the shot feel rock-solid, too.

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There was a bit of a variable wind coming from the back side of the hill that was difficult to call due to my shooting location on the down slope of the hill and to the lack of any telling leaves remaining on the winter trees. The 9 inch horizontal spread of each of the groups satisfied me given the wind and the distance. The vertical size of the groups were 3 inches and 1.5 inches respectively. If the 2 groups were superimposed the combined vertical spread would be 3 inches. That's about 1/3 MOA at 916 yards.

The wind became a little more readable at this point.

Next I added one click to the scope's elevation setting to better center my group
on the piece of steel and switched sticks. I grabbed my Primos Magnum Shooting Sticks (formerly Stoney Point). Under my right armpit I used my Stoney Point Polecat tripod. This group had a 1.5 inch vertical spread and it measured 3.5 inches overall including width. If superimposed, all three groups using two different sets of sticks would measure a 3 inch vertical spread - 1/3 MOA.

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I'd love to share these shooting techniques with you this summer at our LRH-NTO Classes in Wyoming. You can read about the class offering HERE.
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Thanks for a fantastic post with target porn. Awesome shooting sir. I to am a firm believer to " practice what ya preach " at the bare minimum be able to proficiently do yourself everything you are trying to teach ppl. Its the difference between being a real teacher & a real clown takin ppls money. I sure did enjoy this post & pics.
 
Very well done!

By the way, my first ever center fire deer-taking tool was a Marlin 336 chambered in 35 Remington. Wish I still had it....
Nice 1st rifle & I love the cal. I got passed down 1 of 2 Rem model 141 .35 pump action. I love that gun & hunted in 4 states with it. With those 200gr Rem soft nose .35 rem bullets out to 150yds the thing is a deer sledgehammer. 90% of my kills with that gun were hard bang/flops. We would shoot with 3 diff rem .35's from the back porch of my uncles at crows sittin on corn stalks at 100yds with the reg rifle iron sights. I've put the body slam on fox's & groundhogs too with it.
 
Nice 1st rifle & I love the cal. I got passed down 1 of 2 Rem model 141 .35 pump action. I love that gun & hunted in 4 states with it. With those 200gr Rem soft nose .35 rem bullets out to 150yds the thing is a deer sledgehammer. 90% of my kills with that gun were hard bang/flops. We would shoot with 3 diff rem .35's from the back porch of my uncles at crows sittin on corn stalks at 100yds with the reg rifle iron sights. I've put the body slam on fox's & groundhogs too with it.

Ninering

Such fun!
 
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