Even if you roll your own the availability of factory ammo is going to be much better than virgin brass and dies. I jumped on the 300prc train when it first came out and thankfully lapua started making brass. The powders needed are almost impossible to find......but hey I got pretty brass lol
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7mm PRC is here. SAAMI specs out
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Can you show me where I can get a box of factory ammo in any of the chamberings above that are loaded with 180's at 2950 or above?
VLD Pilot
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I've been finding H1000/Retumbo and N570 recently. Hit and miss tho
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At least you know Hornady will make it eventually. Something close to that only exists in the 28 Nosler with 185 RDF's at guess what velocity... 2950. Nothing else exists in that range in any other round.
You guys always act like if a new round isn't faster than everything else than it's worthless. You have to remember that the vast majority of hunters and shooters don't build custom rifles and reload. To those people it doesn't matter if you can spend 4 grand on a custom rifle with a fast twist barrel and Wyatt's bottom metal so you can get peak performance out of a 7mm Remington, they will go get a Tikka in 7prc and a box of ammo off the shelf and get ~95% of what our customs get.
You guys always act like if a new round isn't faster than everything else than it's worthless. You have to remember that the vast majority of hunters and shooters don't build custom rifles and reload. To those people it doesn't matter if you can spend 4 grand on a custom rifle with a fast twist barrel and Wyatt's bottom metal so you can get peak performance out of a 7mm Remington, they will go get a Tikka in 7prc and a box of ammo off the shelf and get ~95% of what our customs get.
I can't find retumbo to save my life. I'm down to my last 2#
Yeah, that's the point, they don't sell that stuff at Cabela's. Although they do make good ammo. Berger did that for a while with the 300 win mag and 215 bergers, they loaded it longer than SAAMI spec but they discontinued it last year.
Ckleeves
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It's gonna be a sweetheart in a Tikka action. It's gonna be a real sweetheart necked down to .264 with 156's!
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Here's the new SAAMI specification drawing:
And the .300 PRC for comparison:
Apparently the newer 7mm PRC is 0.300" shorter than the original .300 PRC case.
For the DIY crowd, the shoulder will have to be pushed back a significant amount to achieve the print specs along with some neck turning and fireforming.
Enjoy!
And the .300 PRC for comparison:
Apparently the newer 7mm PRC is 0.300" shorter than the original .300 PRC case.
For the DIY crowd, the shoulder will have to be pushed back a significant amount to achieve the print specs along with some neck turning and fireforming.
Enjoy!
Harry Knutz
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Come take em off my hands - Utah Gun Exchange
1 pounders of hodgdon retumbo powder. 100 bucks Feel free to text, call or email me
utahgunexchange.com
It's out there, I don't feel too bad now, I have been paying $80.00 per pound to people like these that are causing the problem, This guy has plenty at a real bargain
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I'm super excited about this cartridge.
My custom 28 nosler is too overbore. This will be the sweetspot that many have been waiting for. Yeah it is the modern age 7 rm (long throat, fast twist, heavy bullet, non-belted). This is very welcomed and not to be understated.
For those having trouble seeing into the future yet, this is going to be THE 7 cal cartridge going forward. I suspect that it is just a matter of short time before top tier brass makers are on board. This standardization of 7 magnism is needed in the industry of longrange hunting.
Factory rifle options are getting good and this will help many folks from the otherwise custom world to get what they need for half the price, me 1st. I likely won't be selling off my customs but I will be supplementing my gun cabinet with factory options going forward. Edit: to be clear...I'll still be building customs also, LOL.
As a long range hunter appreciative to weight savings of the lighter rifles, this cartridge will be the sweet spot, IMHO.
Goodbye 7RM. You had a nice run. Respect.
My custom 28 nosler is too overbore. This will be the sweetspot that many have been waiting for. Yeah it is the modern age 7 rm (long throat, fast twist, heavy bullet, non-belted). This is very welcomed and not to be understated.
For those having trouble seeing into the future yet, this is going to be THE 7 cal cartridge going forward. I suspect that it is just a matter of short time before top tier brass makers are on board. This standardization of 7 magnism is needed in the industry of longrange hunting.
Factory rifle options are getting good and this will help many folks from the otherwise custom world to get what they need for half the price, me 1st. I likely won't be selling off my customs but I will be supplementing my gun cabinet with factory options going forward. Edit: to be clear...I'll still be building customs also, LOL.
As a long range hunter appreciative to weight savings of the lighter rifles, this cartridge will be the sweet spot, IMHO.
Goodbye 7RM. You had a nice run. Respect.
I was hoping for a short action. It would've made me want one. Even though I already have my bases covered there with a WSM. The SAUM is the only successful commercial SA 7mm magnum right now. I feel like they could've gotten a lot of that market share with a shorter case.
Yall it's .180" longer than a 7wsm .1367" longer to the neck shoulder junction
.260" longer case than the 6.8 western
.245" longer case than the 7saum
Every single freaking time I read "new from hornady".... I start doing research to see what they knocked off and labeled their own.
This is very close in size to the sherman 7 mega.. js
.260" longer case than the 6.8 western
.245" longer case than the 7saum
Every single freaking time I read "new from hornady".... I start doing research to see what they knocked off and labeled their own.
This is very close in size to the sherman 7 mega.. js
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Problem with the 7 saum is you can't seat long bullets out of the powder and into the lands without a custom reamer/throat. And you definitely can't fit them into a short action magwell once you do.
Short action is just too short to support the COAL that is req'd for the 180+gr high bc bullets that make the 7mm what it can be for long range hunting.
Now if you are preferring 162gr bullet then it becomes a close call, but eventually you have to start asking yourself why your not just shooting the 147/156 6.5 prc at that point.
I do love the concept of a long throated 7 saum in a long action (the way most guys run them), but not anymore than the 7 prc. They are very close at that point and the 7 prc has a bit more umph without being too overbore.
6.5 cal is better suited for short actions IMHO. Especially the 6.5 creedmoor (though not nearly as ideal for longrange compared to long action cartridges).
Post edit: now a 7 sherman short type case or a SHORTENED 7 saum would be a nice addition to the lineup for the high volume build or the ultralight rifle build while keeping you in the 7's for the ballistic advantages over the 6.5 creedmoor in a short action. Perhaps this is what you meant to begin with.
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