I wasn't trying to be a *ick, just curious. There are a lot of people that have never heard of Ackley. But, I don't think you can say there is enough difference between one of Rich's designs and one of Ackley's for people to instantly know what you mean by using the term "Shermanized" versus Ackley. Also, Ackley played with almost every cartridge that he could get his hands on, he also had many different variations on each case. He played with shoulder angle, case taper, ect. So again, the term Shermanized vs Ackley doesn't instantly refer to one standard or the other. I was just wondering why you guys don't give credit to the man who did it first? Sherman designs are good and yes, he works with some cases that weren't around in Ackley's time, but he hasn't done anything that hasn't been done before.