Alex, Have not tried hyb, but yes 180 VLD. .200 FB puts them at 3.10 oal just off. I use single shot action. Cody and Leo both used 195 this month in there wsm's and they are done with them. I've been satisfied with the 180 eldm. 3 deer, one antelope with great results and one elk, but not a good hit on the elk, so needed a follow up shot. All 600 to 850 yards. Only shooting eld at 2940. Got vertical at 1000 yd when run over 3000 fps. Can push vld 3050 with rl 26, but don't use them under 400 yards to avoid the Berger blood shot mess. The Nosler 175 LR accubonds have actually worked well for the closer shots under 500, which surprised us !!The 180s should run 3000 and the 168 3100. Lonnie, have you guys used the 180 hyb or only the vld??? You had more issues this year with the 195 too?
Lonnie