memtb
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Here are a few examples!
80 grain .224 ELDM for deer - 24HOURCAMPFIRE
Dec 6, 2024Haven't tried the 80, but have killed several animals with the 75 gr ELDM at 22-250 speeds. I WAS NOT impressed and don't use them anymore, I found very erratic performance on the 15 or so animals I used them on, to include WT, hogs of various sizes, and pronghorn.I've taken two bulls with 147 ELDM's, one just under 400 yards the other past 800.
The 400 yard shot was very explosive but it just made it to the lungs for a good kill, the entrance wound was the size of a huge grapefruit.
The longer shot was right behind the shoulder and it also didn't penetrate deeply.
One piece of the fragmented bullet clipped a lung, I had to hunt him down for a follow up shot.
They're super accurate but I don't recommend them for big game after my experiences
We found the 147 ELDM , from the PRC to work very well past 500 yards on antelope. But he 2 deer we shot under 400 did die quickly, but the bullet placed broadside in the crease was so explosive it ruptured the diaphragm on both, blew open the stomach, and soaked the tenderloins and hams in orange acid stomach fluids. So I am not a fan after having to clean my meat with a baking soda solution. This was from a 5 groove 8 twist tube.
I fear than with so many 4 groove 7 and 7.5 twist barrels out there now, there are going to be some wrecks from the fast twist, high velocity, deep jacket inscription (3 and 4 groove) and super thin jacket of the ELD M along with the tip to start expansion. This could be the perfect storm
about the two elk shot at the same time, both equally a little far back. The 30 cal heavy elk never went anywhere, the 6.5 elk was stalked for a long ways to get a finishing shot in.
To be clear, I am not saying the 147 ELD M didn't kill. They did and they did it quickly with totally destroyed vitals, both with perfectly placed shots. But when I do my part to place a shot perfect, and I get the mess on the meat of a gut shot, I choose to move on.
For longer pokes they were great, for closer shots, they didn't steal my heart
from what I experienced shooting a big buck with 123 eldm at 3k fps at 325 yards, I would say it was similar to what broz experienced with his two deer at close range and a fast shooting ELDM. it definitely kills them stone dead, but you are also likely to cause a mess, and that bothers some people more than others. It's just something to weight into your bullet decision
I have seen quick kills with them at 525 from a PRC and 700 from a CM. The thing that has made me leave the bullet for now has been blow ups from my PRC. It is only an 8 twist
Saw this on a fb page. 6.5 prc and 147 ELD M. 30 yards. Shooter thinks it is awesome. I disagree. This is the entrance showing it was fully expanded on the hide. Be careful friends. I am going to predict some train wrecks with ELD M's and high velocity impacts
This was just a brief search, most being larger calibers than the 6mm.
Many of these folks experienced "blow ups" at longer ranges when heavy muscle or bone was encountered…..a high velocity impact hitting bone/heavy muscle will only exacerbate the "blow-up" possibilities. Also, the majority of the stuff that I saw was from deer/antelope shots…..not elk. The size of the elk alone can require more from a bullet.
As I mentioned before……a bullet placed behind the shoulder, into the lungs will do the job. Anything beyond the aforementioned shot placement can have unwanted consequences.
These unwanted consequences may not be important for someone living in elk country, having the opportunity to hunt them every year. But, is this caliber/bullet good advice for someone that may only have one chance to hunt an elk?
So, not only do I recommend a bullet better designed for a less than perfect shot……but, also a larger diameter bullet! memtb
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