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6mm Creedmoor first elk hunt
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17remhunter
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I shoot a lot with my 6's Shot the barrel out of my .243 AI. 105 Bergers. Jackrabbits, ground squirrels, marmots or ground hogs. I only shoot coyotes with my 17 Remington pelts are to beautiful to just walk away from The other thing is with the exception of the Antelope at 377 yards i never shoot past 300 yards up until the antelope I never had to. I do have one question that this post has kind of left me confused with and that is bullet selection. Lots of opinions from ELD-M to Hammers to Accubonds to LRX to Match Kings???
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17remhunter
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I took your guys abvice and shot that 7mm Mag yesterday. After that uncomfortable experience i think i will respect you guys that have mountains of experience that i dont have and ive decided to look for a 7mm-08. Maybe a Cooper always wanted one.
Clem Bronkoski
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I can explain it very easily. Go to an open door in your house, preferably a heavy one. From about 6" rap it with your middle finger to shut it. Now, with your fist do the same thing. That is the difference between speed and momentum with the same velocity. You will note that when you hit it with your fist the door either moved further or shut harder. You can't use KE as the only indicator of killing power and penetration.
The 7/08 is a great round and will do you very well for elk, the good old 270 or 25/06 are fine as well.
Like it that you're a pelt hunter, figured that with your 17 Rem handle. I started down the 17 road about 1980 or so. Wore out the factory barrel then stuck a Shilen on it. I even used it on lopes and deer............grins
Like it that you're a pelt hunter, figured that with your 17 Rem handle. I started down the 17 road about 1980 or so. Wore out the factory barrel then stuck a Shilen on it. I even used it on lopes and deer............grins
A ballistic-tipped match style bullet (ELD-M, Sierra TMK/TGK) terminal ballistics will be optimized (upset) as low as 1500 fps or higher. The solid copper monos need high speed to wok best, and will be optimized at 2200 fps and higher. So you'll need to figure out what your most likely maximum range to your target and decide which bullet will optimize best.
The TMK or ELD-M in .284 will be too destructive and the meat loss will be substantial in my opinion. If the 7mm-08 is your choice, you could try the 131 Hammer or the 140 grain weight in Accubond or Berger to keep your speeds higher and recoil lower.
memtb
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Certainly it can be done with a 6mm/243, ect…….but, I'd certainly be very conscious about the bullets used!
It also is dependent upon "if" you will have an opportunity for a "do over"……or will this be you4 only elk hunt!
If it's your only elk hunt……bring insurance in cartridge and bullet selection. JMO. memtb
My concern is this, what if you see the bull of a lifetime, he is moving through quick. The only shot you have is 500 yards quartering hard to you. Don't ask why that would be your only shot as it probably wouldn't be the case but just hypothetical here. Your only shot is through that hard shoulder to the vitals. Could a 6mm bonded or monometal bullet do the job, maybe and likely has for some foljs here. But man I sure would feel better with that 175 Nosler accubond smashing right through that tough muscle and bone. I am sure the 6mm kills great but through bone and muscle I would feel better with something heavier. But then again, I am the 7mm man so I am biased. 
I am going to have to check out those DTAC nosering bullets though for some local Whitetails.
I am going to have to check out those DTAC nosering bullets though for some local Whitetails.
waspocrew
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My concern is this, what if you see the bull of a lifetime, he is moving through quick. The only shot you have is 500 yards quartering hard to you. Don't ask why that would be your only shot as it probably wouldn't be the case but just hypothetical here. Your only shot is through that hard shoulder to the vitals. Could a 6mm bonded or monometal bullet do the job, maybe and likely has for some foljs here. But man I sure would feel better with that 175 Nosler accubond smashing right through that tough muscle and bone. I am sure the 6mm kills great but through bone and muscle I would feel better with something heavier. But then again, I am the 7mm man so I am biased.
But what if you're hunting with your 7mm and your bull of a lifetime is now at 1000 yards and quartering? Would you feel better about a 250-300 gr Berger from a 338 Edge, RUM, etc? Bigger is better for insurance right?
Unfortunately, there is no end to the "what if" scenarios.... I have no issue with anyone using what they feel most comfortable with. Plenty of members here (and other forums) have shown that a 6 CM is perfectly capable of doing the job.
I am not comfortable shooting 1000 yards at game. 700 yards is my max.
Holy **** boys don't you think 20 pages of expert opinions is enough. Time for forum boss to shut this down
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