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6mm Creedmoor first elk hunt

I shoot a lot with my 6's Shot the barrel out of my .243 AI. 105 Bergers. Jackrabbits, ground squirrels, marmots or ground hogs. I only shoot coyotes with my 17 Remington pelts are to beautiful to just walk away from The other thing is with the exception of the Antelope at 377 yards i never shoot past 300 yards up until the antelope I never had to. I do have one question that this post has kind of left me confused with and that is bullet selection. Lots of opinions from ELD-M to Hammers to Accubonds to LRX to Match Kings???
 
I took your guys abvice and shot that 7mm Mag yesterday. After that uncomfortable experience i think i will respect you guys that have mountains of experience that i dont have and ive decided to look for a 7mm-08. Maybe a Cooper always wanted one.
 
Pretty obvious you're not very good with math. Your numbers are way off.
Parameters
Bullet Diameter0.243 inchesZero Range100 yards
Bullet Weight115 grainsSight Height1.50 in
Ballistic Coefficient0.291Muzzle Velocity2950 fps
Temperature59 FWind Speed0.00 mph
Altitude0 feetWind Direction9 o'clock
Inclination0 degreesBerger BulletsCopyright 2013



Range Card
Range
(y)
Velocity
(fps)
Energy
(ft-lbs)
Elevation
(inches)
Windage
(inches)
TOF
(s)
100​
2786​
1983​
0.00​
0.00​
0.10​
200​
2627​
1763​
-2.98​
0.00​
0.22​
300​
2473​
1562​
-11.00​
0.00​
0.33​
400​
2325​
1380​
-24.71​
0.00​
0.46​
500​
2181​
1215​
-44.85​
0.00​
0.59​
600​
2043​
1066​
-72.31​
0.00​
0.73​
700​
1910​
931​
-108.10​
0.00​
0.88​
800​
1781​
810​
-153.44​
0.00​
1.05​
900​
1656​
700​
-209.75​
0.00​
1.22​
1000​
1535​
602​
-278.75​
0.00​
1.41​
I can explain it very easily. Go to an open door in your house, preferably a heavy one. From about 6" rap it with your middle finger to shut it. Now, with your fist do the same thing. That is the difference between speed and momentum with the same velocity. You will note that when you hit it with your fist the door either moved further or shut harder. You can't use KE as the only indicator of killing power and penetration.
 
The 7/08 is a great round and will do you very well for elk, the good old 270 or 25/06 are fine as well.

Like it that you're a pelt hunter, figured that with your 17 Rem handle. I started down the 17 road about 1980 or so. Wore out the factory barrel then stuck a Shilen on it. I even used it on lopes and deer............grins
 
I shoot a lot with my 6's Shot the barrel out of my .243 AI. 105 Bergers. Jackrabbits, ground squirrels, marmots or ground hogs. I only shoot coyotes with my 17 Remington pelts are to beautiful to just walk away from The other thing is with the exception of the Antelope at 377 yards i never shoot past 300 yards up until the antelope I never had to. I do have one question that this post has kind of left me confused with and that is bullet selection. Lots of opinions from ELD-M to Hammers to Accubonds to LRX to Match Kings???
A ballistic-tipped match style bullet (ELD-M, Sierra TMK/TGK) terminal ballistics will be optimized (upset) as low as 1500 fps or higher. The solid copper monos need high speed to wok best, and will be optimized at 2200 fps and higher. So you'll need to figure out what your most likely maximum range to your target and decide which bullet will optimize best.

The TMK or ELD-M in .284 will be too destructive and the meat loss will be substantial in my opinion. If the 7mm-08 is your choice, you could try the 131 Hammer or the 140 grain weight in Accubond or Berger to keep your speeds higher and recoil lower.
 
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