I followed some of those threads.But I saw a Defiance proof build 24''w/ braked ,finished at 6#,not much time on it but love the shorter handy size.4'' less than my main rifle,if im doing some timber deer,varmits cant wait.Im using Hornady brass on purpose because Brent on here,had less issue for sizing and clickers.The run a reamer in if real problem.So that route Ill go but should be a bit before it would show up I hope.Im not going to really step on it .I have a 257 wby,and 338NM my main stick.Im finding Hornady match bullets real easy and have 3 box factory.Might have to dip into my Retumbo to feed it,scored some RCBS,matchmaster dies.