Elk have big lungs and big heart . They can go quite aways when shot there. Bust a shoulder they they are done right there. Dirt knap. I'm not woried about losing a pound of shoulder compared to track and pack an elk farther . Those who like the"crease" shot on elk have fun with that
your experience with hitting a shoulder is vastly different from mine! I'll take behind the fronts all day for a fast kill.