So is that Stiller bottom metal the "long action" BDL?
338 Norma mag
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So is that Stiller bottom metal the "long action" BDL?
Aoudad shooter1975
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Good—single stack—flat follower— with a extra round bottom metal holds 3 down
Hornhunter32
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I have the same setup, but I run a 300 Norma Imp, and the last round always hangs up.
Aoudad shooter1975
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Even with the feedlips in place?
300 H&H
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Tac 338 has no feedlips
300 H&H
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It's from what I understand magazine dependent
Aoudad shooter1975
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No mine is a Weatherby Mark V I'm sorry
Here is my take on the whole .585 lapua gibbs norma mag case size and pressure Remy 700 action or .585 / lapua norma mag specific actio. This is only my opinion and my perspective.
Its not that the steel of the barrel tenion or action hoop strength will not stay together or reach failure but of course the safety margin normal actions hold for catestraphic failure is reduced there is no way around this using normal barrel alloys coupled with the hoop thinckness and strength of the 700 action. The immediate issue is the yield amount of the tenion action combo and edge at the shoulder you are dealing with and its effect on your brass yield. If you load the way many do on here trying to get the hottest node possible you will likely have issues. See how many people are getting slightly dislodged primers that are using stock remy actions but not using the beefier actions and larger tenions. If you drop down a node and not run the 70k+ psi most are hitting prior to visual pressure signs you should be ok. Its up to you.
In the long run, when you look at costs selling the remy action you have and putting it towards a 338 action sure seems like smart money to me. If you do not have an action an extra 500 over the long run is money well spent. If your gonna have it worked over as well as bolt opened up or replacemnt then to me even more benefit to getting the larger action.
When you have a number of good smiths questioning it and or flat out refusing to do it for liabiltiy reasons that too me is a stop and take notice indicator. Being able to do something and it being the smart choice can be very different. No smith would have a very good defense using a remy action if one blew up given remy has never used one for a case this size with psi bolt thrust of this amount. Further as far as I know every large manf uses a different action and or bolt lug spec for these larger cases. The second you exceed what a manf limits to you are in the "bend over and take land" when it comes to lawyers and lawsuits. Why risk your finacial future to save what is a drop in the bucket in the large scheme of things.
For those doing it just for them and know the limits no biggie but you know the stupid things customers and friends can do so thats very different territory. What are the chances they are going to admit they ran a over max hot load and thats why they ate the bolt shrapnel vs their lawyer pointing out an action was used that the manf never intended to be used for a cartidge that size and power. Everything else will be moot as that is one thing that can be proven without a doubt. It does not matter what the cartidges creator designed it to fit in a given action. He is not the action manf and is he going to be up there paying for it?? NOPE. Thats on YOU
Its not that the steel of the barrel tenion or action hoop strength will not stay together or reach failure but of course the safety margin normal actions hold for catestraphic failure is reduced there is no way around this using normal barrel alloys coupled with the hoop thinckness and strength of the 700 action. The immediate issue is the yield amount of the tenion action combo and edge at the shoulder you are dealing with and its effect on your brass yield. If you load the way many do on here trying to get the hottest node possible you will likely have issues. See how many people are getting slightly dislodged primers that are using stock remy actions but not using the beefier actions and larger tenions. If you drop down a node and not run the 70k+ psi most are hitting prior to visual pressure signs you should be ok. Its up to you.
In the long run, when you look at costs selling the remy action you have and putting it towards a 338 action sure seems like smart money to me. If you do not have an action an extra 500 over the long run is money well spent. If your gonna have it worked over as well as bolt opened up or replacemnt then to me even more benefit to getting the larger action.
When you have a number of good smiths questioning it and or flat out refusing to do it for liabiltiy reasons that too me is a stop and take notice indicator. Being able to do something and it being the smart choice can be very different. No smith would have a very good defense using a remy action if one blew up given remy has never used one for a case this size with psi bolt thrust of this amount. Further as far as I know every large manf uses a different action and or bolt lug spec for these larger cases. The second you exceed what a manf limits to you are in the "bend over and take land" when it comes to lawyers and lawsuits. Why risk your finacial future to save what is a drop in the bucket in the large scheme of things.
For those doing it just for them and know the limits no biggie but you know the stupid things customers and friends can do so thats very different territory. What are the chances they are going to admit they ran a over max hot load and thats why they ate the bolt shrapnel vs their lawyer pointing out an action was used that the manf never intended to be used for a cartidge that size and power. Everything else will be moot as that is one thing that can be proven without a doubt. It does not matter what the cartidges creator designed it to fit in a given action. He is not the action manf and is he going to be up there paying for it?? NOPE. Thats on YOU
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codyadams
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Actually.......
Remington DOES make their 700, from the factory, in .338 Lapua.
https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-xcr-tactical
I still wouldn't say its a BAD idea to use a custom .338 action.....
@Aoudad shooter1975 Do you know if all the weatherby mk V actions all come with 750 bolt, or just the xx-378 wby variants? Thanks
Aoudad shooter1975
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Yes they all have a body bolt diameter of .839 I think...
JW74
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I am in the planning phase of building a 338 Norma as well and was curious how the recoil was on your rifle using the T3 brake?
Aoudad shooter1975
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don't have a T3 brake but have found the recoil on both my 300 norma and 338 norma very manageable in somewhat lightweight rifles-- both my guns are sub 11lb ( my 338 sub 10lb with scope) with scopes but both wear brakes.
