308 enough for brown/polar bear?

[Rick Richard]

I have no problems at all killing bears but wounding a bear as a detterent is not just stupid it is also cruel. On top of the pain inflicted long term to the animal there is a very good chance it will do harm to the next human it encounters, especially if the wounds have compromised its ability to eat. Kill the bear or scare it off with pepper spray or noise, wounding it is just asinine.

We can agree to disagree. Have a great day.

 

[Dean2]

We can agree to disagree. Have a great day.

No we can't. Some things are wrong and not open to debate. Just wounding an animal on purpose is one of those things, plain and simple.

 

[Rick Richard]

No we can't. Some things are just wrong, and just wounding an animal on purpose is one of those things, plain and simple.

Go hug a tree. I will do whatever it takes to save my life. I am not one to depend on a can of pepper. And, the deterrence was better than killing. Now, I am done with you and this conversation.

 

[Thebear_78]

Go hug a tree. I will do whatever it takes to save my life. I am not one to depend on a can of pepper. And, the deterrence was better than killing. Now, I am done with you and this conversation.

Killing would have been much better. "peppering" a bear would not discourage an active attack. All you did is make the area more dangerous for everyone else who now has to deal with a wounded bear.

Take your ball and go home.

 

[FEENIX]

IBTL!

 

[xsn10s]

Those had to be fishing guides. I have never even heard of a hunting guide who advocates for a 12ga! Shotguns have thier place bunnies, birds, and burglars.

It was a hunting guide. In griz country.

 

[Thebear_78]

It was a hunting guide. In griz country.

Anywhere in Alaska is griz country. Hell I've ran several off my deck and chicken coop. If I showed up to a hunting camp and the guide had a shotgun that would be a red flag for me. I know a lot of guides, none carry a shotgun. Most carry 338-375s.

 

[xsn10s]

Anywhere in Alaska is griz country. Hell I've ran several off my deck and chicken coop. If I showed up to a hunting camp and the guide had a shotgun that would be a red flag for me. I know a lot of guides, none carry a shotgun. Most carry 338-375s.

Phil Shoemaker dumped one with a 9mm pistol. The guide use brenneke slugs in his 12GA. The Alaskans I know hunt with 300 WSM's or other common rounds. I'm comfortable with my 45-70. If you can't hit with whatever you're using it's just a big paperweight.

 

[FEENIX]

 

[Thebear_78]

Phil Shoemaker dumped one with a 9mm pistol. The guide use brenneke slugs in his 12GA. The Alaskans I know hunt with 300 WSM's or other common rounds. I'm comfortable with my 45-70. If you can't hit with whatever you're using it's just a big paperweight.

The one Phil killed with the 9 was while fishing, He definitely wasn't guiding a hunter at the time. Most Alaskans hunters use 30/06, 7mm, and 300 mags. Hunting is a bit different than guiding. A guide should be able to anchor a wounded animal, requiring a shot often much beyond the range of a shotgun.

Your 45/70 is a great choice for defense.

 

[xsn10s]

12GA Brenneke slugs. 45-70, and the first year I went to Alaska I carried 30-06 with my handloaded 180gr PT's.

 

[xsn10s]

The one Phil killed with the 9 was while fishing, He definitely wasn't guiding a hunter at the time. Most Alaskans hunters use 30/06, 7mm, and 300 mags. Hunting is a bit different than guiding. A guide should be able to anchor a wounded animal, requiring a shot often much beyond the range of a shotgun.

Your 45/70 is a great choice for defense.

LOL he still killed a griz with a 9mm lol.

 

[FEENIX]

12GA Brenneke slugs. 45-70, and the first year I went to Alaska I carried 30-06 with my handloaded 180gr PT's.

LOL, I have 6 of the 10.

 

[xsn10s]

LOL, I have 6 of the 10.

I wanted to get a 375 H&H but at the time I didn't know how well I would be able to shoot it. When I finally got to shoot one heck it seemed easier than my 45-70 with hot loads lol.