Well good thing those Hammers aren't made of lead!Not to hijack this post, but my mountain goat moved a total of 5 yards and dropped after being hit with your 213 gr bullet. All my guide kept telling me was how tough the goats were and how they suck up lead like they haven't been hit. But, not in my case. Both front shoulders were broken and the vitals were jello. Hammer Bullets are the real deal.