From what I have written down, we are about 5800 pcs asked for. If we hit 10,000, I will spring for the balance and offer loaded ammo as well as brass at that point. Generally speaking, I would expect a pretty good percentage of people to become ghosts or just change their mine when its time to front the money. That seems to be a regular thing. So 10,000 will likely become 6k or so. And this is all predicated on the fact that ADG is willing to make the production run. We will see. I talked to them last week and they were aware of the threads started.