.260 vs 6.5 Creedmore

[Swamplord]

When the big boys commandeer toys made for lil kids, lmao

 

[stewdo]

Problem solver in 2 words….two seventy.

 

[cajun]

And the 6.5 Rem Mag, they put too slow of twist barrel and built it in the 18" barrel mod 600. They made it to shoot light weight bullets, if they would have built it with a faster twist and longer barrel it would have done a lot better than it did.

No doubt. Great round just came around 50 years too early.

 

[MontanaJack]

Remington sucks - their marketing sucks, the R&D sucks, they have no idea what long range hunters/shooters want or need. Thats why none of their 260 offerings came with a twist rate fast enough to stabilize the high BC 6.5 bullets.

Edit: to sum it all up they are idiots and they suck. The 6.5 creedmoor never would have been necessary if Remington hadn't screwed the pooch on the 260.

Be interesting to know what led to Remington's downfall. The Sandy Hook law suit settlement coincided with their bankruptcy, but their decline started long before with a decline in quality and sales. I worked in several industries that self destructed after management turned to MBA wizkids for management abandoning groomed from within employees that understood the business. Look at Boeing, took a nose dive under management by business experts in the boardroom instead of aviation experts. Their Achilles Heel in the lawsuit was marketing, more MBA BS. Remington was sliced & diced with assets sold off to holding companies. Brand quality gets lost when the Wall Street sharks insert themselves into a business.

 

[MTGunner]

Hmmmm, my 260AI shoots bullet weights between 100-130 grain in bug holes off the bench if I am doing my part. It has accounted for many, many, critters over the years. Oh yeah, forgot to add. It's a 9 twist.
Just took a nice 8 point at approximately 170 yds. One and done. Blew up the heart, mush. Took ten steps and then a dirt nap.
I have fired the 6.5 Creedmore. It is a darn good cartridge within its respective performance levels. Would I use it for elk? No! It's a very effective deer cartridge. It's an effective pronghorn cartridge. It has its limits as does the Remington 260. Tomato, tamato.
As far as Remingtons issues I believe the state of NY, bean counters et all have ruined what was once a good company. The current owner of Remington Arms has a long battle to equal what was once a good firearms company. MTG

 

[Turkeytider]

Be interesting to know what led to Remington's downfall. The Sandy Hook law suit settlement coincided with their bankruptcy, but their decline started long before with a decline in quality and sales. I worked in several industries that self destructed after management turned to MBA wizkids for management abandoning groomed from within employees that understood the business. Look at Boeing, took a nose dive under management by business experts in the boardroom instead of aviation experts. Their Achilles Heel in the lawsuit was marketing, more MBA BS. Remington was sliced & diced with assets sold off to holding companies. Brand quality gets lost when the Wall Street sharks insert themselves into a business.

Don't know for sure, but wouldn't be surprised if at least one business school has incorporated the Remington saga as a case study in how to wreck an iconic brand. For those of us who grew up in the field either carrying a Remington or walking next to someone who was, truly a sad story.

 

[westexhunt]

Resurrection of a dead one. 260 with long high bc bullets is too long for my 700 short action magazine. The slightly shorter CM case was designed to solve that issue, other than that it's marketing.

 

[Wilderness Blacktail]

I remember when the 260 was announced and I wanted a rem Model 7 in stainless so bad. The articles were hyping up the advantages of the design and cant wait to review it....

And then rifles and ammo became available and from normal barrels the speeds were 2550 from 20" and barely 2600 with 22".

The 7-08 had a 20 year head start and its ammunition was true to advertised speeds, also shot 140 gr bullets and seemed like a lot of folks went that route.

The 260/6.5 Panther?/6.5-308....deserved better.

Had Remington stepped up and handled it right there would be less need of a modern 6.5.
I do think the CM would still be designed, for no other reason than a better mousetrap in 2.8" mags with heavy long bullets in tight fit saami chambers.

 

[Turkeytider]

Hmmmm, my 260AI shoots bullet weights between 100-130 grain in bug holes off the bench if I am doing my part. It has accounted for many, many, critters over the years. Oh yeah, forgot to add. It's a 9 twist.
Just took a nice 8 point at approximately 170 yds. One and done. Blew up the heart, mush. Took ten steps and then a dirt nap.
I have fired the 6.5 Creedmore. It is a darn good cartridge within its respective performance levels. Would I use it for elk? No! It's a very effective deer cartridge. It's an effective pronghorn cartridge. It has its limits as does the Remington 260. Tomato, tamato.
As far as Remingtons issues I believe the state of NY, bean counters et all have ruined what was once a good company. The current owner of Remington Arms has a long battle to equal what was once a good firearms company. MTG

Your very last sentence is spot on, although nothing would please me more if somehow they could resurrect the Remington brand to a level in which they are recognized as once again a serious player on the American firearms scene. Got a long roe to hoe, though.

 

[Horsemen61]

I have both and enjoy both but if I had to only have 1 it would be the 6.5 Creedmoor

 

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

Long discussion on the .260 Rem and 6.5 Creed.
If Remington started making the .260 in 1:8 instead of 1:9 there would have been no need for the 6.5 Creed.
Although we had several .260 Rem in 1:9 and shot 142gr SMK in the same hole.