Ok enough of the B.S most of these so called new rounds where developed years ago, they are just now being used by the gun companys to make you spend more money, I like the 6.5, I also like the 30 cal rds, nothing wrong with the 7mm, but go ahead beat the old 30/06, most of you have zero training at shooting long range you sure didn't go to sniper school the old one, no range finders no mil dot scopes you had to know how to shoot. And you sure better be able to range estimate really good, I really doubt 1% know how to read a topo map to estimate range. Look I like to shoot long range it's a hell of alot easier now than it was 40 years ago. But let's be responsible, tgts are one thing wounding a animal is another, and as I was taught you learn more in one year archery hunting than you will ten years hunting with a gun. Shoot what you want, practice practice practice but most of all have fun, I have never put down somebody's rifle I just try and make them shoot it better no matter what it is. There are no gimmicks to shooting long range, there is no one thing that is going to miraculously make you shoot 1/2 groups at 1000 yes, this is getting to the point we should all buy 155 mm howitzers have a fdc a forward observer and a 100 meter kill radius per round, dont know the cost but I cant afford it.