Huntnful
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My 28 nosler with 169 hammers was probably my best shooting rifle. I shot 10 shots into a .6 group with that combo once doing a ladder test…. Before I knew ladder tests were trash hahaha
$100K 1/2 MOA rifle?
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Huntnful
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I should have been more specific! I'll edit the original post!I was thinking sub 9 lbs (all up, scope, rounds sling)...
And to make in interesting let's keep it to field postions IE no bench rests...
Not a game for me....
A Hunter Class rifle is described in the NBRSA rule book but the basics are as follows: A Hunter rifle stock must not be over 2 ¼ inches wide and be convex on all bottom surfaces of the stock. Bolt action receivers must be no wider than 1.400 inches and no longer than 10.25 inches. Custom re-barreling is permitted. The barrel shall have a diameter of not more than 1.250 for 4 inches in front of the bolt face and would taper to a diameter of .750 diameter at 26 inches from the bolt face. Original factory issue barrels need not meet these specifications. Glue-ins are not allowed. Bore diameter can be up to .338 and case capacity is not limited. Magazines shall not be required, but receivers must be cut out for a magazine. Scopes must be 6X or less. Variables are allowed but must be set at 6X and taped. Rifle and scope not to exceed 10 pounds in weight. Falling Block/Rolling Block single shot rifles will be allowed in Hunter Class competition.
Yea. A "hunting" rifle implies everything from varmint, small game, medium game, etc.
wldcat
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Haha even said hunting rifle in caps and I still didn't see it
mine is definitely to heavy to pack around but it has killed a lot of prairie dogs……. Kind of counts???
Huntnful
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hahaha, no no, I just edited the post the post to capitalize hunting and then threw in some stipulations also lol. You're fine haha.Haha even said hunting rifle in caps and I still didn't see it
When I thinking "hunting" my mind immediately goes to a gun capable of killing an elk. I should have been more specific to begin with.
Haha even said hunting rifle in caps and I still didn't see it
PD's and hunting don't go together, you shoot pd's not hunt them...
Even with the changes, the answer is still yes. I'll start with one of my 308Win in a 26" barrel weighing in at 11 1/2 # with scope. It is very consistent with 155 and 168 AMAX in the .3-.4" five shot groups. Many years ago, I had an old Rem 700 in 308 Varmint that shot 168gr Sierras into similar .3" groups, and I still have an old FN 270W that loves a load of 4831 and 130gr Speers and shoots well under .5 moa.
My 260AI comes in at about 11#, and it has no problem staying under .5 moa
I have a factory Remington Sendero in 300 RUM that I lapped barrel and lugs, polished the trigger and built a 180gr AB load with Retumbo that will shoot sub .5 moa.
Over my decades, I have owned and seen far too many rifles and loads that would shoot under .5 moa, and several of those began life as a factory rifle that only had a few smith tweaks and good load development.
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I'm extremely Happy with my, 7 Pound, 10 Ounce, .270 WSM T-3 Tikka that, RELIABLY Prints, 5 Shots into, 1.5 inches at, 200 Yards and Sub 6 inch groups, Prone at, 700 Yds.
Yup, she's an "Elk Slayer" with, 140 Berger's, zipping out at, 3,185 FPS and I can carry it, way back,.. into the Mountains.
I do have, a 10 Pound, 6 XC that would Win the Bet ( gets 5, 107 SMK's into, the .2's and .3's ) But, it's not, an Elk Rifle.
Yup, she's an "Elk Slayer" with, 140 Berger's, zipping out at, 3,185 FPS and I can carry it, way back,.. into the Mountains.
I do have, a 10 Pound, 6 XC that would Win the Bet ( gets 5, 107 SMK's into, the .2's and .3's ) But, it's not, an Elk Rifle.
Ckleeves
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Sub half moa on demand isn't easy for a five shot group. I had a rifle (6.5 creed, fairly lightweight rifle, around 9 pounds fully dressed) that I would have taken that bet with. Sold it to a buddy and I can still get behind that thing and shoot some groups in the .3's and .4's
The 300 PRC I have in the classifieds right now I would call an honest half minute gun, but 300 PRC is a whole lot harder to drive then a Creed so when I broke a .5 group with it I usually felt it was on me. This is a 5 shot group out of it, the high flier was on me
These are 10 shot groups out of a 300 wm I sold and a 300 wsm I still have.I know the 300 wm looks like 5 but I can promise it was 10. Both very consistent guns but I wouldn't take that bet with either.
This a a 6.5 prc my wife had, this was a typical 5 shot out of it but sometime it would shoot more in the .6's or 7's so I also wouldn't take that bet with it.
The truth is it's all just for fun, and true half minute rifles are a whole lot harder to come by then most people think. if you can put 10 in 1 moa with good ES and call wind good you can kill anything you point a rifle at.
The 300 PRC I have in the classifieds right now I would call an honest half minute gun, but 300 PRC is a whole lot harder to drive then a Creed so when I broke a .5 group with it I usually felt it was on me. This is a 5 shot group out of it, the high flier was on me
These are 10 shot groups out of a 300 wm I sold and a 300 wsm I still have.I know the 300 wm looks like 5 but I can promise it was 10. Both very consistent guns but I wouldn't take that bet with either.
This a a 6.5 prc my wife had, this was a typical 5 shot out of it but sometime it would shoot more in the .6's or 7's so I also wouldn't take that bet with it.
The truth is it's all just for fun, and true half minute rifles are a whole lot harder to come by then most people think. if you can put 10 in 1 moa with good ES and call wind good you can kill anything you point a rifle at.
Huntnful
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Great groups right there!! And the last part of your post is spot on for sure! Putting 10 shots into a .6-.8 groups is actually a **** nice group
Huntnful
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I think you're 100% right. Because I would definitely wager $100, or maybe even $1000 on a couple my rifle/loads going into .5"
But to have one that will do it every single time and putting down $100k to prove it, makes you think a little more haha.
"The truth is it's all just for fun, and true half minute rifles are a whole lot harder to come by then most people think."
More good rifles with proper loads are .5 moa capable than most shooters are, and therein lies the bigger issue.
When I was a gun club VP, we trained a lot of shooters, and one group was teens in small bore, prone 22 shooting. After much training, you could hand different shooters the same excellent Anschutz target rifle and see so many different groupings.
More good rifles with proper loads are .5 moa capable than most shooters are, and therein lies the bigger issue.
When I was a gun club VP, we trained a lot of shooters, and one group was teens in small bore, prone 22 shooting. After much training, you could hand different shooters the same excellent Anschutz target rifle and see so many different groupings.
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