Anyone know the fate of the 6.8 western?

Idaho Lefty said:
And With, a 30 grain Heavier Bullet = MORE,. Recoil !
The .270 WSM with, 140 gr. Berg's going, 3,200 FPS, IS, at, Normal "Hunting Ranges", a DRT "Killer" with, "reasonable", Recoil and, the Bullet is, STILL going OVER,.. 2,000 FPS at, 800 Yards !
IF needing, "More Bullet" I'd go with, a bigger, High BC, 7 MM, personally, like in,.. a 7 PRC, 7-270 WSM, or, 7 SAUM,.. probably !
JMH, Opinion,. as usual !
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Ah yes, there you are Idaho 🤣

I'm not surprised at your opinion at all but will counter it with my own which is that 30 grains bullet weight hasn't in my subjective experience meant enough recoil difference to notice or at least be bothered by it. Can't tell much difference between 195s and 225s in my 300 win mag, or 75s and 100s in the .257 wby, 140s and 180s in the 270 (I did experiment with the 180 grain woodleigh bullet years ago) …but I also acknowledge I'm an oblivious man sometimes haha, a bit of a recoil junkie, and I honestly don't notice a huge difference in recoil between 3 and 3.5 inch 12 gauge shells either when some folks claim it's night and day.

My tastes are less refined and discerning haha
 
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Lou270 said:
ADG makes brass for 6.8W. Folks already loading it from initial run back in Oct. On recent podcast they said next full production run of 6.8W is Feb.

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Lou
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Well hot dog. Thank you sir! Maybe I should consult the giggle next time before assuming. This definitely puts it on my list.
 
OG-danimal said:
I'm not sure the differences there. I am also considering a 270 Sherman short. Same performance in a true short action. Anybody have one of these?
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I have a 270ss and absolutely love it! It has a 20" barrel and shoots the 150 NABLR at 3075FPS. I haven't tried the heavier pills, since I have 400 of the 150's. I've taken elk out to 630 yards with it. In my opinion, its a fantastic short action cartridge!
 
@ Calvin 45,..
As an old Dinosaur from, the PRE- Brake, "Era" I could Tell, the Difference in Recoil, between 150 grain. .30-06 and 180 grain, .06,.. ammo !
Ouch !! That was, Back in, the 1960's to 1980's or,.. thereabouts !
30 Grains, is probably NOT anywhere near, as noticeable with, Today's, Muzzle Brakes, tho !
Love the 130 grainer's, in a BRAKED, 6.5 Creedmoor 24", Tikka @ 2,800 FPS for Pure,. shootin' Pleasure !
I gave, the .270 WSM, Tikka, to, my grandson !
It's "Braked" Now and, he shoots, the Chit, outta, it ! ( Got his first, Antelope with it @ 268 yards, a couple of, months, ago )
 
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MT-JONAS said:
6.8 western recoil is very manageable for me. Anyone one who can't shoot the 6.8W should probably just go get their nails done. 🤣🤣🤣
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UN-Screw, the Brake or, Can and go shoot, 12-15 rds of, those 170 Grainer's,. Off, "the Bench" and Come talk to, Me
As a Young Pup, I used to Shoot an UN-Braked, .338 Win Mag with, 210 Noslers, whistling Out at,.. 2,987 FPS and,..
Off, the Bench it, Was, a Fun, "Handful" to Say, the least !
But, the Rifle "Clover Leafed" 3 shots touching, Every Year, so I didn't need to do More than, some "Cold Bore" Testing and,. Go,. Hunt !
Today's Brakes,.. ARE,. "Sweet" !
 
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OG-danimal said:
Curious about what the fate of the 6.8 western will be. Anyone have any hot tips on if shot show is going to have any 6.8 news? I want to rebarrel my 6.5prc and this is a top contender, but without some more support I'm likely to go to a different route.
Cheers
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IMO, it just needed a couple minor tweaks to work perfect. I would have made a 35 or 37 shoulder and launced with high quality brass and higher bc bullets ready from the launch. No surprise it didn't...but if they would have...just imagine.

Assume a case with 80gr of H20, short action compatible and premium brass with a 175gr bullet with a a .350 G7
That would have been amazing
 
Dentite said:
I have one, I like it, wish Browning and Winchester could do more to support it.
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The "Life and Death" of, the 6.8 Westerner IS in, the Hands of, "the Bean Counters" and IF, NOT, "Popular Enough" it, will soon, go by the Wayside,
My opinion from, Years of watching Cartridges that are, "Close, in USE" to, One another.
To be safe, Buy a bunch of Ammo or, Brass and Dies, If, you're Worried.
 
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OG-danimal said:
Curious about what the fate of the 6.8 western will be. Anyone have any hot tips on if shot show is going to have any 6.8 news? I want to rebarrel my 6.5prc and this is a top contender, but without some more support I'm likely to go to a different route.
Cheers
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I rebarreled my prc to a 7 SAUM back in 2019 and don't miss the prc at all! I run 175 Berger's at 2950 and they hammer everything from antelope to elk.
 
muledeerhntr said:
I rebarreled my prc to a 7 SAUM back in 2019 and don't miss the prc at all! I run 175 Berger's at 2950 and they hammer everything from antelope to elk.
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I know I've stated it before, so I apologize for the redundancy, but a short mag case with a fast twist .284 barrel is what the 6.8 W should've been from the outset, IMO. This just feels like deja vue all over again with the 325 WSM. Certainly a good cartridge in its it's own right (I own one), but many of us wanted a 338 WSM. Judging by the short time the 338 RCM was wirh us, a 338 WSM likely wouldn't have faired much better than the 325; however, just like with a .284 vs .277, at least we'd be left with a much better bullet selection if/when the cartridge goes defunct. I feel like high BC .277 bullets will go the way of the passenger pigeon if the 6.8W trends towards obscurity. Right or wrong, there's just bore diameters that don't get as much love.
 
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The problem wth the SA 7mm instead of 6.8W is the heaviest 7mm bullets with highest BC out there (ie 180+) require a long action even if starting with a wsm size case. This is reason Win went with 6.8 for western case and Hornady went with LA with 7PRC case. For ex, the Berger .277 170 eol (works in 3" mag) is higher BC than the 7mm bergers up to 180 grains. The 180+ require more case capacity to push to equiv velocity and more head height since longer. Maybe a modern short action shooitng heavy/high bc bullets in cal bigger than 6.5 is a bad idea in general. I dunno. Prior to 7prc, the trend across the board was to short action and not long action cartridges for hunting. I still like SA when running a can as any savings in length/weight is great when adding a bunch on end so curious to see how sorts out in long run

Lou
 

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