Brake question

Chromeslayer said:
My 9yr old son is shooting a cva scout 243.. hes alil recoil shy... id like to curb that issue for him so hopefully he doesnt pick up any bad shooting habits at a young age.... the gun is already treaded for a brake... i have a 30cal brake laying around... will there be any issue using that on the 243? Or should i get a different size
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The average muzzle brake will really hit your son with a lot of the muzzle blast as they tend to mostly force the blast back towards the shooter. The most popular muzzle brake in the PRS is the Ace brake. This break forces the muzzle blast up and to the sides, so the shooter feels much less of the muzzle blast. There not really expensive either. I would recommend this brake for any new shooter.
 
The extra blast from the brake will probably offset any recoil reduction that is gained. Reduced recoil loads are the way to go with properly fitted ear protection. I had the same issue with my daughter, I used this method and after shooting her first deer, it was no issue. I also have another trick but won't post it on here. Nothing illegal but lot of guys will say I'm nuts, it works
 
Chromeslayer said:
My 9yr old son is shooting a cva scout 243.. hes alil recoil shy... id like to curb that issue for him so hopefully he doesnt pick up any bad shooting habits at a young age.... the gun is already treaded for a brake... i have a 30cal brake laying around... will there be any issue using that on the 243? Or should i get a different size
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Just be aware that it will change the characteristics of his gun. I had a brake on my CVA Cascade 270 in an effort to control muzzle rise/jump. I was struggling to work up a couple of pretty common and dependable hunting rounds. Took the brake off around .6 MOA which is good for me on one of those same loads.

I'm sure some brakes are better for some guns than others. I bought a good brake- VG6. It just changed barrel resonance enough to cause issues.

PS- I use a limbsaver slip on recoil pad on my guns. It helps a lot with recoil. Made a 7 mm WSM with a pencil barrel tolerable.
 
When I first started shooting at the ripe age of 13, I experienced the same issue with my first rifle (6.5X55 Swedish Mauser). My father started me out with a 410 shotgun and a big box of 22 mags to shoot. After several boxes of shotgun shells and countless boxes of 22 mags my confidence grew. My largest caliber I shoot is a 300 Weatherby Mag with muzzle break and a good recoil pad.
 
I would just like to make a few friendly and very Low Tech suggestions that may help. #1 Use the break you currently have to affect some recoil reduction, while you look/shop for the correct one. #2 Purchase a PAST recoil reduction pad he can wear over his shooting shirt. I use one all the time for Load testing . #3 Please allow him to shoot more and more, until it all becomes very normal, and NON Scary , to him. #4 If you are hand loading, you can also reduce the load a bit as well as use a lighter bullet , and then build the load back up as he regains confidence and comfort. Without spending any real money you may greatly reduce his problem, while having fun at the range.
 
Chromeslayer said:
My 9yr old son is shooting a cva scout 243.. hes alil recoil shy... id like to curb that issue for him so hopefully he doesnt pick up any bad shooting habits at a young age.... the gun is already treaded for a brake... i have a 30cal brake laying around... will there be any issue using that on the 243? Or should i get a different size
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How old!! 9???.
I was shooting since 5 so that doesn't mater. It is how you start off. I have seen a Parrent ruin a young hunter by getting him his first rifle 30.06.
Shot the rifle once and new shot again!
First of all did you or are you starting him with a 243?
Have him shoot a .22 then a couple hundred rounds of 223 to get him used to it. then the 243 and a must good hearing protection.
 
I understand you are talking about a youngster, but if you happen to buy a brake specific to caliber, get one that directs blast outward at 90 degrees. They are slightly less effective for recoil, but SO much more comfortable for the shooter. Less noise, less concussion. And with a .243 or other similar recoiling cartridge, entirely adequate.
Normal to longer barrel lengths are another way to keep him farther from the blast.
I promise inches matter in that department.
I hurt my hearing and got a lot of mild headaches with a high dollar very effective big name brake, no more of that for Me. Good luck to him.
 
Phil Rizzo said:
I understand you are talking about a youngster, but if you happen to buy a brake specific to caliber, get one that directs blast outward at 90 degrees. They are slightly less effective for recoil, but SO much more comfortable for the shooter. Less noise, less concussion. And with a .243 or other similar recoiling cartridge, entirely adequate.
Normal to longer barrel lengths are another way to keep him farther from the blast.
I promise inches matter in that department.
I hurt my hearing and got a lot of mild headaches with a high dollar very effective big name brake, no more of that for Me. Good luck to him.
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I used to make brakes as a hobby. I did not sell them. The gun Smith asked me to make one and thread it on both ends.

I made a four port brake with angled ports at about 20*. I fired the rifle three times on the eight foot slide. It traveled about forty inches. Then I fired it with the ports forward. It traveled about a foot. Then I fired it three times with the ports pointing rearward. It traveled about five inches.

I concluded brakes work even if the ports are pointing the wrong direction.

By the way, the slide also confirmed lighter bullets significantly reduce recoil.
 
RichCoyle said:
I used to make brakes as a hobby. I did not sell them. The gun Smith asked me to make one and thread it on both ends.

I made a four port brake with angled ports at about 20*. I fired the rifle three times on the eight foot slide. It traveled about forty inches. Then I fired it with the ports forward. It traveled about a foot. Then I fired it three times with the ports pointing rearward. It traveled about five inches.

I concluded brakes work even if the ports are pointing the wrong direction.

By the way, the slide also confirmed lighter bullets significantly reduce recoil.
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exactly! lighter faster bullets will have less recoil felt or not. then again powder helps decide on how much with equal velocities.
 

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