Trijicon Credo 2.5-15 vs Vortex Razor LHT

kickemall said:
I've had both and the Creedo is a hands down better scope. If for no other reason than it will hold zero when you throw it on the back seat of the PU and drive on gravel roads. Turrets were mushy on the Vortex and it couldn't be trusted (along with several others that friends had) to hold zero. Creedo is solid.
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I always wonder when I see these posts. Driving down a gravel road made it lose a zero? I have a couple of them, both 3 years old and neither has had an issue with zero. I did pick up the new Maven that passed a drop test so I'm not discrediting the drop test, I just don't understand how a scope could possibly lose zero driving down a gravel road. Sounds more like a ring issue (recoil) than a gravel issue.
 
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Kyle Wheeler said:
Super helpful. Which reticle do you like more? LHT reticle is probably where I lean
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I think LHT as well.

I like a 5x erector more than a 6x too. But both are useable.

Durability is a weird "thought" though. I mean, when you shoot at something and miss, we always look for reasons. If I'm shooting something I know to be proven can often have issues, it's really tough to shake that thought when you are hunting. I've personally never had an issue with my LHT. But next time I miss…..I know where my head will go.
 
Ucsdryder said:
I always wonder when I see these posts. Driving down a gravel road made it lose a zero? I have a couple of them, both 3 years old and neither has had an issue with zero. I did pick up the new Maven that passed a drop test so I'm not discrediting the drop test, I just don't understand how a scope could possibly lose zero driving down a gravel road. Sounds more like a ring issue (recoil) than a gravel issue.
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Agree with this with a small counter.

I don't see how it could either. BUT

I also don't test my scopes or shoot as much as the folks doing the tests do. I (like I am assuming most) probably roll down the washboard road to sight in. Drop a few rounds down range. They hit about where I'd expect them and then I hunt. To be honest I'm not going to notice a 1/4 to 1/2 MOA shift and even if I did I probably wouldn't even adjust it.

I think that's the fidelity those tests are looking for and finding. In reality it may not effect 99% if hunters due to shot distances. Again a 1/2 MOA error at 500 yds is 2.5"…..ain't no one noticing it, but doesn't mean it didn't shift.
 
tahoe1305 said:
I think LHT as well.

I like a 5x erector more than a 6x too. But both are useable.

Durability is a weird "thought" though. I mean, when you shoot at something and miss, we always look for reasons. If I'm shooting something I know to be proven can often have issues, it's really tough to shake that thought when you are hunting. I've personally never had an issue with my LHT. But next time I miss…..I know where my head will go.
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Yep, that **** nagging reliability concern from spending too much time on the internet convinced me to swap out the VX6hd 2-12 on my two primary hunting rifles for for 2-5-15 credos. Gained a couple ounces, but they are really nice scopes. I do really miss the Leupold scope caps though.
 
Kyle Wheeler said:
I really enjoy this magnification range on scopes. After using both of these I am still a little torn. Both tracked well for me and these are a few of my findings. Keep in mind these are both great japanese scopes but curious what others have found or prefer.

LHT pros:
-lightweight
-0.35 MOA center dot
-Outer lines really helped me zero in on center dot
-Elevation knob is locking

LHT cons:
-Windage knob is mushy
-Seems to scratch easily
-Parallax and zoom are stiff
-It was durable for me but it is very light so not sure if it would stand up to the same standards as Credo

Credo pros:
-Very tough overall
-Great illumination
-Windage turret more tactile
-Built in throw lever
-2.5X low end

Credo cons:
-Reticle a little thin for me at low light
-Few ounces heavier than LHT
-0.25 center dot. I did like the 0.35 on LHT for my eyes
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Kyle,

You mention that the Credo reticle is a little thin at low light.
I am curious about this point as I have gotten rid of very high end scopes because the reticles were ridiculously thin for my aging eyes. That's a major reason I tend to drift toward SFP scopes.

Not having access to either scope to look through, would you say there is a significant difference between the two? How, for instance, would you compare the Credo reticle relative to ease of use, to let's say the Leupold VX5 Firedot reticle which I have several of?

Thanks for any additional insight on this point.
 
Havingfun said:
Kyle,

You mention that the Credo reticle is a little thin at low light.
I am curious about this point as I have gotten rid of very high end scopes because the reticles were ridiculously thin for my aging eyes. That's a major reason I tend to drift toward SFP scopes.

Not having access to either scope to look through, would you say there is a significant difference between the two? How, for instance, would you compare the Credo reticle relative to ease of use, to let's say the Leupold VX5 Firedot reticle which I have several of?

Thanks for any additional insight on this point.
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So sorry for late reply. It was not an issue for me but it is noticeable compared to the LHT. The LHT has fatter lines on the outside and even in broad daylight it seemed to help with target acquisition faster. I think it's a great reticle on the credo but if all you do is 100 yards in the woods I would lean LHT but for out West or general use the Credo works great. I still prefer the credo scope over LHT
 
Another to look at is the Maven RS 1.2--just has been a solid performer for me.

I have a new Leupold Mark4 setting here waiting to go on something. im going to try out but this one doesn't quite meet the magnification range we are talking about. good thoughts--.looked at a LHT a few times just never did bite.

Ed
 
FWIW I'm in my 4th year of a lht. I haven't touched the POA since it dialed it in 4 years ago. It's responsible for the death of a lot of elk, deer, antelope, coyotes, and ground hogs. It's bounced around in a razor and the back seat of a truck for thousands of miles. It's been dropped, unintentionally, more times than I can count. The glass is great, the locking turrets are great and the zero stop is solid and easy to adjust. At 19oz it's impossible to beat!
 
Muddybuddy said:
FWIW I'm in my 4th year of a lht. I haven't touched the POA since it dialed it in 4 years ago. It's responsible for the death of a lot of elk, deer, antelope, coyotes, and ground hogs. It's bounced around in a razor and the back seat of a truck for thousands of miles. It's been dropped, unintentionally, more times than I can count. The glass is great, the locking turrets are great and the zero stop is solid and easy to adjust. At 19oz it's impossible to beat!
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Super good to know! The weight is very impressive
 
Aoudad shooter1975 said:
Another to look at is the Maven RS 1.2--just has been a solid performer for me.

I have a new Leupold Mark4 setting here waiting to go on something. im going to try out but this one doesn't quite meet the magnification range we are talking about. good thoughts--.looked at a LHT a few times just never did bite.

Ed
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Would like to give one a try
 

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