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I zapped my wife...by accident. She put the collar around her bicep because she wanted to make sure I wasn't hurting "her" dogs. Old style controller with a button for each power setting, I thought I was on the lowest power but was actually on the highest because I was holding it upside down. This was +20 years ago, she's still ****ed and I still sleep with one eye open...
I would put it on the collar. I have had 4 Labs. Never used a collar like that.
I have a 9 month old Czech shephard that works well she retrieves She has found evry wounded every bird and brings them back she stands for the shot then when told to go she is off.. I use a e-collor mostly for the vib to get her attention for hand signal's she also is good at bring my ducks back also she just loves to hunt and is doing blood tracking of large game used to find one wounded moose that got away took a bit but she tracked it and found the dead moose before it spoiled or the bears or wolves could get to it
That reminds me of the story bw my Aunt and Uncle. He was a bit of a joker, and could literally grab an electric fence and hold on to it. They were at my dad's garden one morning picking peas. They had a wash tub full of peas and were headed to the house, both holdinga handle. It was early and there was still a dew on the ground, and as they walked out of the field, my Uncle reached over and grabbed an electric fence. Needless to say it lit my Aunt up very well. She was not happy with her "Beau" as she always called him. If we ever wanted to get her stirred up in later years, all we had to do was to mention that episode. My Dad could hardly make it through telling the story of witnessing her trying to let go of the tub handle and then going after my Uncle...
This is an option for sure. I would spend some time training before going directly to force fetch due to the dog's age and what prior training was. Also be certain you understand the concept of "force fetch" thoroughly or have a pro trainer do it.
Likely story!
The beauty of a real lab is that you don't have to train a retrieve, it should be totally instinctual. Same with water work. So.... that said ...I agree with prior advice, back to basics. I have had labs and DK's. With Dk's pointing is instinctual, water work instinctual and almost as good as a lab. Retrieve is there but will need work, not as instinctual as a lab. Take your pick. I left labs bc they are no longer bred to correct standard and now all look blocky and course like newfies and are too large or like fireplugs on short legs. None have the proper otter tail, but ones that curl over their backs like a Spitz. Not interested in seeing buttholes on a "lab".Some are aggressive or have other behavioral issues which is NEVER in a real lab. I agree with prior post that if it ain't one of the three colors it may look like a lab but it isn't one. Red and silver are not labs. I blame this on show breeders. American breeders could learn alot from the German breed clubs. AKC registry is toilet paper. Versatile hunting dogs North america (VHDNA) step in right direction. To really know about good/proper dog breeding do a little reading on DK's. Lab lovers need to come together and do something similar to save that breed.
Off subject but I believe my next lab will be a British lab and not a American lab. Not ruined by show dogs and pets but still bred for hunting!
All that said I really love labs, but have to shake my head at what I see nowadays. Is your dog APLA? I have had labs that pointed an it as a trait can be bred for to be instinctual same as any other trait. To me a pointing lab is about as perfect a dog as you can get. Retrieve, water work, pointing ALL instinctual.....NO training except for basic controls. Much stricter german breed club regulations are needed....otherwise????
British labs are IMAO like fireplugs on short legs and do not look the least bit Nobel. The American hunting retriever of 30-40 years ago is what a lab should look like. Problem is the hunt test clubs started breeding for more aggressive, far ranging, larger, hyper dogs, as in the Marley movie.
