Zeiss V6 vs NF SHV vs Leupold VX6HD

I've looked at the SHV, V4 and V6 all side by side. The V-series has great turrets, the reticle definitely appears a little thicker than the SHV or even the Leupold TMOA. And I agree with rfurman24 you can see the difference between the V4 and V6 with the Schott glass. I prefer the MOAR nightforce reticle but everything else about the Zeiss.

rfurman-- any idea why Zeiss did the 1MOA at 25x instead of max power?

I just pulled the Zeiss subtensions and on the V4 line the ZMOA-1 reticle is 1moa at MAX (24x)--- bizarre


No idea. I drives me insane. I know very little about actual scope construction but my guess is they are using the same reticle in multiple scopes. The 8-32 LRMOA series from Sightron was the same. My March SFP is the same. Maybe I am just weird but when I am taking a long range shot I want max power and I want the sub tensions correct at that power.
 
If anyone is SERIOUS about using any reticle to it's potential at various magnification, FFP . If not , you're stuck using it at a certain mag .
 
If anyone is SERIOUS about using any reticle to it's potential at various magnification, FFP . If not , you're stuck using it at a certain mag .

Yes, we know this but I honestly do not remember ever taking a long range shot at anything other than max power. I have no issues with FFP just not going to pay extra for it in most cases and many scopes do not even offer it. Having said that, I may end up getting rid of my March and getting the FFP.
 
I have a V6 and SHV. The V6 is hands down a better scope in my opinion. My SHV just sits in my safe. I can't speak to the VX6HD. Depending on what you prefer in the different features each offer, I would go with the V6.
 
If anyone is SERIOUS about using any reticle to it's potential at various magnification, FFP . If not , you're stuck using it at a certain mag .

FFP has a great advantage of being able to use the reticle at any magnification. But many of those reticles can be too fine at low magnification for certain hunting situations.

I found that the leupold TMOA was a nice compromise for SFP but subtensions still very usable. And the math isn't too difficult if you find yourself at something less than max magnification (double the sub tension at half mag, etc)

There's plenty of hunters and shooters using SFP that work that reticle seriously.
 
I've got a v6 3-18x50 and it's a fantastic scope.
The glass clarity is the best I've ever used, I haven't owned the other scopes listed but I can tell you the glass is much better than Swaro Z5's.
the 18 power is plenty given the clarity, I've been dialing it up and down for about 4 months and it tracks perfectly.
 
Don't get me wrong, I own and love 2fp optics . My only FFP in the stable is a 4-16x56 Hensoldt with a mil dot reticle. The bold dots are perfectly usable at all mag , however they're a little large at max power on small long range targets.

It's all about each shooter figuring out what works best for them . Thankfully these days we have plenty of options for all types of shooting and budgets.
 
Assuming you have your scope set up with your eyes, is the eye box to tight at 30x for those who have the 5-30? I'm getting the 3-18 or 5-30. Sent both versions back last week. The 3-18 must of been a demo and the 5-30 I couldn't get the image to clear up past 150 yds anything above 12x. I know it must of been a bad one which i understand happens sometimes.
 
Assuming you have your scope set up with your eyes, is the eye box to tight at 30x for those who have the 5-30? I'm getting the 3-18 or 5-30. Sent both versions back last week. The 3-18 must of been a demo and the 5-30 I couldn't get the image to clear up past 150 yds anything above 12x. I know it must of been a bad one which i understand happens sometimes.
I do not think so but I have never found that to be a problem. I make sure I set my scopes up so that my cheek weld is in the center of the eye relief.
 
I do not think so but I have never found that to be a problem. I make sure I set my scopes up so that my cheek weld is in the center of the eye relief.
Same here, i here people complain about that sometimes and I've never had that problem. I'm going to get one of them. Just haven't decided if i need the extra moa, magnification and the extra 6oz.
 
Same here, i here people complain about that sometimes and I've never had that problem. I'm going to get one of them. Just haven't decided if i need the extra moa, magnification and the extra 6oz.

Over the next few weeks I will try to get some tracking testing done. I personally think over all I prefer the V4. I really like the capped windage turret.
 
Apple's to oranges , but I really like the capped windage on my ATACR , I wish more manufacturers would offer that feature.
 
Yes, we know this but I honestly do not remember ever taking a long range shot at anything other than max power. I have no issues with FFP just not going to pay extra for it in most cases and many scopes do not even offer it. Having said that, I may end up getting rid of my March and getting the FFP.

EXACTLY, the problem is in recent years guys think they need the hubble telescope to make a long range shot. for a long range hunting shot, a scope that maxes at 14x-16x is plenty of scope. I have shot sub half MOA with a 3.5-15 NXS @ 1000 yards. shot numerous coyotes between 400-1000 yards. You don't need or even want FFP unless your scope is very high power ie 5-20x 6-24x etc. The question to ask is there going to be need to take a long range shot off max power. for me I simply use scopes that are medium power range. That way I have a SFP reticle I can actually see and use on low power.

FFP is for PRS shooters and other ninja range shooters. Those high power scopes I talked about are for varmint hunting or load development.

all I am saying is give the V4 a solid shake in your decision. I was told zeiss ships the internals to LOW for assembly in the v4. So its possible the V4 and v6 internals are the same. Also keep in mind those saying the v6 is so much better because that is the scope they bought may be hesitant to admit the better scope might be the cheaper version.

Frankly I really don't give a rip about the glass that much. That should be down the list in your decision making. first does the scope track well and does it work well mechanically. Next eye relief, eye box, ease of getting behind. after all that glass. I don't care if the scope has GOD glass, ubber glass, nazi glass, schott glass, or tequila shot glass. if the first few things I mentioned aren't squared a way choose something else. My 10 year old elite 4200 has plenty of glass to get well beyond legal light. hold the scopes together v6 and v4. If your looking at the scopes in the store I don't know how anyone would pick the v6 as being the better scope. perhaps there is some difference in low light but in the store I can't see anyone objectively picking the v6, unless they are hung up on the whole made in germany deal.
 
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