So you're saying putting a 6" circle inside a 10" circle isn't very good odds?
I am saying something different., I say various posters with a model x 20" 308 , or model xx 270 or , model ??? caliber !!x , with the the goal to shoot deer at 800 with factory ammo have not shot a 10 shot group at 600yards to enlighten them. one does not know until you try. shooting can be educational.