Sounds like you've got a couple legitimate gripes and the hunt was not for you, what did you pay for the hunt? I looked at double Y's website, its a well done site, but the hunts are pretty cheap, something everyone should keep in mind. Also looked like several of the photos date back into the 80's from the hunters apparel. Everybody wants to price shop and gripe about how one guys is cheaper than the next when looking to book a hunt, but never stop to think about getting what you pay for. There are lots of options all over the US for the same game species, and I deal with potential clients price shopping every angle. Seems theres a price bracket for about every type of "hunt experience" available, not sure what you paid at Open Creek, but Double Y falls into the lower end price bracket. We are adjusting our prices to fit the economy to an extent, but seems the high and low end priced hunts stay the same, somewhere in between the two seems to get good results and a good experience for the client, and if you can afford a $14,000 elk hunt, I am sure it will be a great experience. Still interested to hear what was wrong with the Double Y hunts, legitimate issues with cheaper hunts always interest me. I'll check out open creek now and see if the writing is on the wall as well