Mach V- Yah, I guess I shoulda just cooled my jets towards the end, so I coulda stuck around just for the good information, I'm sure they know a little about what there doing, but not to much /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I wasn't really trying to bring up the LR thing, I just basically said that since I'm not very good at calling, they sometimes hang out there ways and I'm forced to use my better shooting skills. I dont see where thats offensive in any way, shape, or form. I want to learn how to call them little suckers in better, there smart dogs for sure. I'd like to get a lot more calling, but it just dont work that way for me. My best method is usually driving around and so called "sniping" them, thats how they look at it anyways. To me, a coyote is a predator/varmint and should be treated as such. The fawn mortality rate in Oregon for antelope is ridiculous because of all the yotes. My intent was not to stir up a bunch of crap, but only to introduce myself and the way I'm currently hunting/set up. They didn't like it from the get go, and I guess I can see why. That site has some certain parameters that you ahve to follow, and I guess I didn't, oh well.