Wolf quota to at least double.
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bigngreen
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I can't find any offical word from FWP yet, I know that they want to double it but I haven't heard if it is official yet. I heard Idaho is upping the quota and allowing almost no holds barred hunting methods, like trapping and electronic callers.
Oliveralan
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Lock n load!
Long Time Long Ranger
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Hopefully everyone will learn not to fill the quota so the season always remains open. It is up to all hunters to try and salvage what little hunting we have remaining. Non-expanding bullets through the gut do very well to eliminate wolves from eradicating all game animals while at the same time keeping the wolf season open. Words can not describe how serious the wolf situation is. Everyone do what they can to eliminate this threat to big game populations.
bigngreen
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True words LTLR!! I would add to try to pick of the breeding females first, don't just pick of the yearlings, we have to target adults first then the younger one will come easier. I talked to the local Gov trapper that shoots all of the problem ones and he said there are several packs he can't get with an airplane and now the helecopter is getting figured out by some of the pack, these are smart animal and we need to kill them smart!!
Franklin
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Just a little something to think about that was emailed to me.
http://biggameforever.org/wolf-overpopulation.php
As most of you know, the wolf is devastating herds of elk, deer and moose in the states where they have been reintroduced. Recovery objectives in the Western States were met in 2002 and they went unchecked until 2009 when Idaho and Montana had the first seasons. My studies on this problem show that between 30% to 50% of a given population of wolves must be reduced each year to maintain current populations, which are 4 time the original objective. Now the anti-hunters (anti hunting is the real agenda in this issue) have the ear of the judge making the decision on whether to put them back on the endangered list. Obviously, if that happens, management of the wolf will cease again. We will always have wolves, the goal is not to eliminate them, but rather to let the biologists and scientists develop plans to manage them like all other big game in America is managed. The North American model for game management has been extremely successful for many years and it is now in jeopardy because one species is not being controlled.
I urge you to sign the petition that you will find by clicking on the link above.
Regards,
Boyd R. Burns
http://biggameforever.org/wolf-overpopulation.php
As most of you know, the wolf is devastating herds of elk, deer and moose in the states where they have been reintroduced. Recovery objectives in the Western States were met in 2002 and they went unchecked until 2009 when Idaho and Montana had the first seasons. My studies on this problem show that between 30% to 50% of a given population of wolves must be reduced each year to maintain current populations, which are 4 time the original objective. Now the anti-hunters (anti hunting is the real agenda in this issue) have the ear of the judge making the decision on whether to put them back on the endangered list. Obviously, if that happens, management of the wolf will cease again. We will always have wolves, the goal is not to eliminate them, but rather to let the biologists and scientists develop plans to manage them like all other big game in America is managed. The North American model for game management has been extremely successful for many years and it is now in jeopardy because one species is not being controlled.
I urge you to sign the petition that you will find by clicking on the link above.
Regards,
Boyd R. Burns
cowboy
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There is a big "IF" in this whole scenario. There is a hearing coming up very soon regarding "IF" there is even going to be a season in Montana and Idaho. Malloy is the judge out of Missoula and a bunch of the fuzzy hugger groups filed a law suite at the last minute before season opened last year and Malloy said there are some problems but he was going to allow the season to progress. However - he warned that he had some very serious reservations that the season should progress in the future under what conditions are in place. So don't be surprised if this thing really blows up. I thought Wyoming took the right approach but now it may be all three States downfall in even having any season in any State. Let's hope that reason overcomes technical BS.
bigngreen
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Did some digging and found some info for the MT wolves and what FWP is looking at. Nothing is set yet but this will give you an idea the direction. A lot of reading but there is some interesting data on movements.
http://fwpiis.mt.gov/content/getItem.aspx?id=43594
http://fwpiis.mt.gov/content/getItem.aspx?id=43593
http://fwpiis.mt.gov/content/getItem.aspx?id=43594
http://fwpiis.mt.gov/content/getItem.aspx?id=43593
ATH
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Good, now get them to be reasonable with the out-of-state wolf tag prices and I'll gladly help you out if an opportunity presents itself. $200+, while reasonable for something like antelope, is too steep for what is basically a lottery ticket.
TerryLamb
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Idaho fell short of its wolf harvest objective of 220 in 2009, with hunters taking only about 180. 26,429 tags were sold, at $11.50 for residents and $186.00 for non-residents. It is a shame that the non-resident fee is so high, as most non-residents are on guided big-game hunts and probably have a better chance at wolf sightings than does the typical resident.
Of the 26,429 tags, less than 700 were to non-residents. If the tags were more reasonable, I suspect far more NR tags would have been sold, with a resulting increase in kill.
Idaho wants to greatly increase its harvest, as, even with 180 taken by hunters, and more than 100 additional confirmed killed by other causes (road kill, defensive kills by landowners, government killed due to stock depradation, etc) the number of wolves in the state still increased from the year previous.
Of the 26,429 tags, less than 700 were to non-residents. If the tags were more reasonable, I suspect far more NR tags would have been sold, with a resulting increase in kill.
Idaho wants to greatly increase its harvest, as, even with 180 taken by hunters, and more than 100 additional confirmed killed by other causes (road kill, defensive kills by landowners, government killed due to stock depradation, etc) the number of wolves in the state still increased from the year previous.
Now only if Wyoming can get the wolf on the "predator list" with a few trophy areas. I'm sick of seeing the effect of these animals on our big game population. They kill for pleasure half the time and are extremely smart.gun)
TerryLamb
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Idaho Sets Emergency Wolf Control
Date:May 17, 2010Contact:Ed Mitchell
(208) 334-3700
wolf control action planned in lolo zone
Idaho Fish and Game has authorized four backcountry outfitters to help reduce wolf numbers in parts of the Lolo wolf management zone.
Outfitters and their licensed guides already in the backcountry on spring black bear hunts will work with Fish and Game in a predator control action to reduce wolf numbers.
The four outfitters are authorized to kill up to five wolves each in their operating area by the end of the spring bear season June 30. The agency control action is not open to hunters.
The effort is in response to concerns that wolf numbers are preventing recovery of elk herds in the Lolo zone from a long decline. Fish and Game research has shown that predators have kept the Lolo herds in a downward trend. Fish and Game will evaluate the effectiveness of the control action as part of its ongoing Lolo elk study.
The action is in accordance with Fish and Game's wolf management plan and the predator management plan for the Lolo zone, which includes black bears, mountain lions and wolves. The predator management plan is on the Fish and Game Website at http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/cms/wildlife/plans/loloSelwayPredPlan.pdf. The wolf management plan is at http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/cms/wildlife/wolves/manage/PopManagePlan.pdf.
IDAHO FISH AND GAME
HEADQUARTERS NEWS RELEASE
Boise, ID
HEADQUARTERS NEWS RELEASE
Boise, ID
Date:May 17, 2010Contact:Ed Mitchell
(208) 334-3700
wolf control action planned in lolo zone
Idaho Fish and Game has authorized four backcountry outfitters to help reduce wolf numbers in parts of the Lolo wolf management zone.
Outfitters and their licensed guides already in the backcountry on spring black bear hunts will work with Fish and Game in a predator control action to reduce wolf numbers.
The four outfitters are authorized to kill up to five wolves each in their operating area by the end of the spring bear season June 30. The agency control action is not open to hunters.
The effort is in response to concerns that wolf numbers are preventing recovery of elk herds in the Lolo zone from a long decline. Fish and Game research has shown that predators have kept the Lolo herds in a downward trend. Fish and Game will evaluate the effectiveness of the control action as part of its ongoing Lolo elk study.
The action is in accordance with Fish and Game's wolf management plan and the predator management plan for the Lolo zone, which includes black bears, mountain lions and wolves. The predator management plan is on the Fish and Game Website at http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/cms/wildlife/plans/loloSelwayPredPlan.pdf. The wolf management plan is at http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/cms/wildlife/wolves/manage/PopManagePlan.pdf.
It's nothing but a big lie ... Montana do not have any wolves.
