Wolf Hunting... which state is BEST???

[Muskrat Outdoors]

Interesting. I have only weighed 1. All but 1 have been shot a long way from a road. This blackish Ugly make was 118 lbs, September. It was gross hauling him off the mountain but it was my first bow kill so I wanted to know. I've only killed one other that felt heavier and bigger. I wish I would documented a couple others like the one on the 4 wheeler. View attachment 421527View attachment 421528

Nice! 115 pounds is a dandy!! 125 pounds is a really big one. I have a picture of mine on the back of a friend's side x side, it fills it all the way across, but it's on my phone. I'm not sure how to put it on here?

 

[Muskrat Outdoors]

Nice! 115 pounds is a dandy!! 125 pounds is a really big one. I have a picture of mine on the back of a friend's side x side, it fills it all the way across, but it's on my phone. I'm not sure how to put it on here?

There! Figured it out!

 

[BillLarson]

With all this talk about read the documents........People losing their job for disagreeing.....Documents that have been placed in the round file......... trained professionals say shoot them......
Whats a guy to believe..... ????
do wolves not migrate....????
do wolves not interbreed with dogs and coyotes.....
I believe there is a reason wolves,grizzly bear and other bears were killed to near extinction...... by early settlers...
They eat what we eat.... including us.....

 

[BrentM]

With all this talk about read the documents........People losing their job for disagreeing.....Documents that have been placed in the round file......... trained professionals say shoot them......
Whats a guy to believe..... ????
do wolves not migrate....????
do wolves not interbreed with dogs and coyotes.....
I believe there is a reason wolves,grizzly bear and other bears were killed to near extinction...... by early settlers...
They eat what we eat.... including us.....

There are some interesting documents about super packs a long time ago and killing humans on the prairies.

Today, if managed properly we can control the population. Our ph government paid peeps use helicopters here. They also have paid trappers. So far it's the only way to truly control the population. Hunters alone cannot do it. I hunt, I've killed 17, I don't know any other hunter who has killed that many. Most successful wolfers are trappers. I don't have that kind of time nor the desire.

 

[WYO300RUM]

To answer the original question, Idaho. This is due to high numbers, plenty of tags, and very inexpensive tags. Most are killed while hunting other big game. You can use a deer or elk tag on a wolf but it's much cheaper to have a wolf tag in your pocket anytime you are in the Idaho woods.

On another note, living on the WA/ID border, Idaho is doing a good job managing wolf numbers and Washington is not. Washington is also having discussions about doing away with hunting and allowing "predators" to manage big game. That state is is run by a bunch of liberal morons.

yep . Ca., Or. and Wa. are trying to end human hunting.

 

[WYO300RUM]

There! Figured it out!

Nice one

 

[WYO300RUM]

Spot on. Giant wolves are the exception to the rule. Look up the records. All the data is there. Look at sci skull records for largest wolf skulls. I have 1 that is a #4 for a bow kill and it's not even close to the top for Alaska wolves. Lower 48 wolves are not that big in general.

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That's a biggin !

 

[WYO300RUM]

Interesting. I have only weighed 1. All but 1 have been shot a long way from a road. This blackish Ugly make was 118 lbs, September. It was gross hauling him off the mountain but it was my first bow kill so I wanted to know. I've only killed one other that felt heavier and bigger. I wish I would documented a couple others like the one on the 4 wheeler. View attachment 421527View attachment 421528

Another biggin ! I'm guessing at least 120 pds.

 

[BrentM]

Another biggin ! I'm guessing at least 120 pds.

Guessing. Biologist said winter weight wolves are about 15-20 lbs heavier

 

[koja]

With all this talk about read the documents........People losing their job for disagreeing.....Documents that have been placed in the round file......... trained professionals say shoot them......
Whats a guy to believe..... ????
do wolves not migrate....????
do wolves not interbreed with dogs and coyotes.....
I believe there is a reason wolves,grizzly bear and other bears were killed to near extinction...... by early settlers...
They eat what we eat.... including us.....

Settlers yes,farmers, majority of our ancestors were subsistance farmers,with lots animals and private dumps,even in cities,now think like a wolf or coyote, with a farm every 160 acres.Smaller, more farms closer to and in town. Every 1/4 mile a wolf sees food. Early 1900,eastern ks. they did wolf drives,some 12 miles wide 1000+ people,included,jack rabbits,coyotes and wolves. I'm not good at linking articles but heres some interest reading. search owlcation.com kansas wolf hunts

 

[338weatherby]

Guessing. Biologist said winter weight wolves are about 15-20 lbs heavier

That goes for some of us too!

The wolves I've been around that were either hit by cars or shot were in the 80-110 range. Tall, lanky and fluffy. Look a lot heavier then they are. The last four dogs I've had weighed 110, 125, 130, and 135 in their primes. All thicker or stockier but only one was near wolf height and he's about 30" at the shoulder.

 

[338weatherby]

You do realize that seeing a wolf or two that has gone... whatever pounds, isn't disproving anything, right?

Out of the how many thousands of wolves you guys claim are everywhere, you guys are giving accounts of a few wolves...

You do know how averages work, yes?
Just like how black bears up to 1100lbs have been found doesn't mean black bears are 900+ lbs.

Our DNR talks about live trapping 800lb black bears, you know the average size black bear shot here? It's about 140lbs.

So one off wolves that are 160, 180, etc pounds doesn't mean anything other than they can get that big, and that's a far cry from them being that big in general.

And it doesn't make an average of, say 110lbs any less true. And for what it's worth, Idaho fish and game says 70-110 for males and 60-80 for females. So, 90lbs for males to hit the middle, 70 for female, and to combine them, that'd be an 80lb average... or thereabouts(depending upon sex numbers). MNs International wolf center notes the average male wolf in MN to be about 70-85lbs.

Anyways now in MN they are claiming our average wolf pack is about 3.6 wolves. I'm really beginning to wonder what they're doing with this stuff, isn't 3 a minimum size possible to even be considered a pack?

Doesn't even sound plausible that it's that low, does it sound better to say we have 1,000 packs at 3.6 wolves/pack vs 500 packs at 7.2... or are our wolves starting to become more individualistic?

They noted pack size from 2-7 but is 2 a pack? I mean wouldn't you have to have 3 at least to be a pack, 2 is a pair. Are they getting more funding if pack size is small or what's going on

Maybe the wolves are shacking up with coyotes because they're better company... who knows I guess.

Anyways, it's amusing to see the number of wolves killed by the USDA here, but hey, we can't have a hunting season, I'd hate to bring money in when we could instead pay for a Gov't agent to "manage" them.

I don't put any merit into what MN says about our wolf population. The 2-3 wolf packs is a joke. The libs in this state want public opinion to be that the wolves are surviving not thriving. Small packs are less "scary" and fits their narrative. Some of the local wardens will be honest when you talk to them. MN released their wolf plan last week. Nothing good in it for management in my opinion. Basically 100% pro wolf plan.

Minnesota's wolf plan

The DNR's updated wolf management plan incorporates the diverse views of Minnesotans and guides the state’s approach to wolf conservation.

www.dnr.state.mn.us

 

[CubCouper]

I've seen 3 wolves and got a shot off at one here on the NE side of the Wyo Bighorns. The past 3 seasons I've had more wolves answer elk bugles then elk. No tag necessary -- they are a predator here, same as a coyote, shoot on sight, year around, though there are some rules about reporting a harvest to the G&F.

I know of two taken this fall by ranchers on the south end of the Bighorns near Kaycee (I grew up there). Wolves are tough to find but there are a lot of them around and they have definitely affected the elk patterns. We see at less elk and generally smaller herds in the traditional mountain area, and we're now seeing more elk herds down on hay meadows 15-25 miles from the mountains. I guess elk would rather be shot at for a few weeks a year than harassed by the predator population all year long. Fact is that the wolves will follow the herds and ranchers are seeing tracks down on the flats now.

 

[griz375]

It has been reported that one , or some of the original re-introduction had some males that approached 180 pounds.

The fist transplant wolves came from the Mckenzie River area, I had a pup from the same area, at 3 years old he weighed 180. So yes they can get that big.