I only see Mil, no MOA. Do they have one in MOA?
which would you choose a Tangent Theta or Scmidt & Bender for for a long range and hunting scope.
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Yes, they have a nice MOA design.
They are releasing the MOA this year. I spoke to ZCO a couple of months ago, and have been keeping pretty close tabs on this.
I can't commit to a date for the release, but it is coming in the 4-20 mag range.
lancetkenyon
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TT>ZCO>S&B.
To be honest, S&B PMII 5-25×56 MTC2/LT does not compare to TT or ZCO any longer.
TT is the absolute King in just about every aspect.
ZCO is close.
At the current price difference, ZCO is a smart buy.
And yes, I own/owned all of them. With LOTS of rounds behind them.
To be honest, S&B PMII 5-25×56 MTC2/LT does not compare to TT or ZCO any longer.
TT is the absolute King in just about every aspect.
ZCO is close.
At the current price difference, ZCO is a smart buy.
And yes, I own/owned all of them. With LOTS of rounds behind them.
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I'm not so sure that a general classification of "best" or "king" applies when a shooter/hunter chooses between the TT or the ZCO. It certainly didn't for me. IMO, either brand scope displays a superior level of glass quality, mechanical precision, and build quality that is difficult to discern, and pretty much neutralizes these core attributes. As I found out when selecting between the two brands, each has a number of distinguishing features and formats that will be a major factor in an individuals preferenc for one or the other. Differences in reticle design, magnification range, elevation range, tactile feel of the turret and power ring, parallax control, weight, size, price, and even styling are variables, and will play a role in one's preference and selection. For my use, after looking into the sum of these aspects, my selection of the ZCO 420 became obvious for my particular use, and I'm elated with my decision. But it's not to say another shooter would have made the same choice for the same reasons.
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lancetkenyon
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I agree that between the ZCO and TT it's not really a matter of one being better, it's more a matter of differences. I like my TT315M on a dedicated hunter due to the weight. Tangent has better turrets and slightly better depth of field. I'd say the "glass" is overall slightly better on the Tangent as well. I also like the gen 2 mildot on a dedicated hunter. For overall use or for crossover use, I prefer both my ZComps over tangent as I prefer the reticle, controls, eyebox and image of the ZCO.
The M-series TT might be on the same tier for some as the ZCO's... I won't argue the matter, as I prefer the 315M.
However, the TT P-series scopes are without equal. Give me a call if you have any questions about a Tangent Theta or would like to get one bought.
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I am sure both scopes will have minimum advantages or disadvantage but as Orkan mentions, the P series is in a class by itself. Everyone wants to look at glass quality, design, etc but at distance, what matters in my opinion is repeatability. If I dial 4.3 Mil, does the scope track 4.3 Mil exactly and there is no horizontal movement. If I zero the turret, does it come back to zero. Run a tall target test with the P series and you will understand.
Either scope would be great choice.
Either scope would be great choice.
I have S&B's, Swarovski's and friends with TT and ZCO's and if I wasn't so heavily invested in the S&B I'd likely go TT. My 2 biggest complaints with the S&B's are the battery compartment and illumination dial are behind the ring closest to your face which means they generally sit further back than the others. My only dig on the ZCO is that you need what I'm going to call odd sized rings because of the tube diameter and at the time my friend bought them the mounting options were fairly limited, the finish also seemed to get marked up fairly easy on his. Other than not being familiar with the mechanics of the TT I couldn't find anything I didn't like about it. I'd only use these scopes if weight wasn't an issue, I however like my rifles light so I use the Z8 on my hunting rifles.
They fixed that on the new models. Only took them 20 years. lol
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