What is a high velocity bullet?

[jessej]

Any boolit can be a high velocity boolit.
The first step is to define what number constitutes high velocity.

All in jest of course!

 

[xsn10s]

IMO it just is more accurate to list the bullet's velocity for any given rifle and cartridge combination. One could also say this is fast, average, or slow for a given cartridge/ bullet weight/ barrel length. Even then we'll have discrepancies, but at least I think we'd rule out some disagreement. No? LOL

 

[Jon Bischof]

You are correct; it is freaking hot here, 48F yesterday and 55F today. I appreciate your concern, but I am relaxed and getting plenty of sleep (3-4 hours a night all my life) and exercise. Yes Sir, I always pray not only for patience. The gophers have been keeping my buddy and me busy.

It will be 93*F here today and the humidity is 97% right now. God grant you good gopher shots. Our tree squirrel season opens next week so I am gearing up for some ESR hunting fun. All Subsonic for my rodents. Have fun in the fast lane for yours!

 

[lyle2231]

I saw a thread where a poster used the statement "high-velocity bullet X" without explanation. So rather than hijack the thread and make it controversial unnecessarily, I figure I would start a separate thread with informational and civil dialogue with the LRH community; we all know the rules. I think I know what the poster means, but we have a lot of new members new to reloading and LRH/S that can benefit from it. What does a high-velocity bullet mean? We all know that solids can be driven to higher/faster velocities than the cup and core bullets. Current solid bullet designs require higher minimum impact velocities than a cup and core bullets.

I pretty much laid out my definition of a high-velocity bullet, but I am more interested in your take on the subject matter. Cheers!

@Petey308

The marketing department making some overtime.

 

[Tommyrexx]

I saw a thread where a poster used the statement "high-velocity bullet X" without explanation. So rather than hijack the thread and make it controversial unnecessarily, I figure I would start a separate thread with informational and civil dialogue with the LRH community; we all know the rules. I think I know what the poster means, but we have a lot of new members new to reloading and LRH/S that can benefit from it. What does a high-velocity bullet mean? We all know that solids can be driven to higher/faster velocities than the cup and core bullets. Current solid bullet designs require higher minimum impact velocities than a cup and core bullets.

I pretty much laid out my definition of a high-velocity bullet, but I am more interested in your take on the subject matter. Cheers!

@Petey308

PRS has a speed limit of 3200 fps due to those speeds damaging steel at nearer ranges we shoot. In that game anything over 3200 may be considered high velocity.

 

[Teri Anne]

I saw a thread where a poster used the statement "high-velocity bullet X" without explanation. So rather than hijack the thread and make it controversial unnecessarily, I figure I would start a separate thread with informational and civil dialogue with the LRH community; we all know the rules. I think I know what the poster means, but we have a lot of new members new to reloading and LRH/S that can benefit from it. What does a high-velocity bullet mean? We all know that solids can be driven to higher/faster velocities than the cup and core bullets. Current solid bullet designs require higher minimum impact velocities than a cup and core bullets.

I pretty much laid out my definition of a high-velocity bullet, but I am more interested in your take on the subject matter. Cheers!

@Petey308

Well to my way of thinking, which many here may or may not agree with there are two categories of bullet velocities, please note that it's velocity not the bullet itself that defines the category. First let's define the speed of sund.

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The speed of sound is the distance travelled per unit of time by a sound wave as it propagates through an elastic medium. At 20 °C (68 °F), the speed of sound in air is about 343 metres per second (1,125 ft/s; 1,235 km/h; 767 mph; 667 kn), or one kilometre in 2.9 s or one mile in 4.7 s. It depends strongly on temperature as well as the medium through which a sound wave is propagating. At 0 °C (32 °F), the speed of sound is about 331 m/s (1,086 ft/s; 1,192 km/h; 740 mph; 643 kn).[1]​

Therefore there are two different velocity levels, Standard Velocity which would define a sub sonic bullet in flight. Used to be only .22 rimfire ammo that was standard velocity but with all of the silencer technology these daze there are a lot more ammo designs that are sub sonic. If standard or sub sonic is not high velocity then high velocity has to start when the bullet breaks the sound barrier, which most do at around 740 mph (1086 ft/sec.






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[greenejc]

Anything that @ButterBean shoots?

The 30-30 WCF was the first American high velocity bullet, achieving a little over 2,000fps with a 170 grain projectile and 2300 or so with a 150 grain projectile in 1894 or 95. I think you'd have to say that by the standards of the introduction of smokeless powders, anything over 2,000fps was high velocity.

 

[Hal The Slayer]

Anything that @ButterBean shoots?

Amen! you go Butterbean!!

 

[Mike Matteson]

High velocity to me is anything that's over 3000fps, and even higher than that. I realize that some firearms can't reach that velocity at there bests. Bullets designs are a different story. How the bullets handles the different velocities. Some bullets can't handle high velocity, and other are really built for shooting steel at long range, aren't really built for hunting. People use them, and believe in them. I don't but that's how I feel and doesn't apply to others. The design of the tip of the bullet, and how it retains it shape during it's fight down range, makes a big difference.

 

[HunterMann]

X marks the spot.
X group.
X generation.
Lady X
Xanadu.
My X, your X, who aint got an X...

 

[Gibbshooter43]

To my 22lr, my 17mach2 is considered high velocity. To my 250/3000 at 3000fps, my 220 Swift at 4000fps is considered high velocity. But theses terms include the case and the powder. So the definition will vary with the experience and technological ability of the reader/responder. Hence, very fast to one is the norm while very, very, very fast is the norm for another. Some spend their whole life chasing the fastest high velocity bullet while others spend their whole life chasing the fastest high velocity cartridge. What I am thinking is that without a standardized, accepted definition, it's all relative.

 

[Chas1]

Come on folks !!! High velocity bullet is defined as a bullet not going SLOW

 

[Charles Keethler]

Any bullet not sub-sonic.

 

[FEENIX]

It will be 93*F here today and the humidity is 97% right now. God grant you good gopher shots. Our tree squirrel season opens next week so I am gearing up for some ESR hunting fun. All Subsonic for my rodents. Have fun in the fast lane for yours!

Yes, Sir, we are blessed. Summer is my least favorite season but as you noted, it gets us closer to hunting season. Our rancher friend gives us a list of games to control, including muleys and WTs.