What is a high velocity bullet?

[jessej]

Their are educational threads, and entertainment threads. I enjoy both.

I classified this thread as entertainment from the beginning, I hope threads like these don't go away.

 

[WYO300RUM]

My rum shoots 199g Hammer Hunter at 3400 fps. Now I don't know what adjective to use to describe the bullet or the rifle. Same snowflake policing has half the country not knowing what adjective or pronouns to use when taking about a human that has the ability to give birth.

It's a high velocity cartridge, high velocity bullet, and a woman!

Amen to that brother. Steve,
I'm only getting 3300 something with 181 and it has a 28 in. barrel. 1 in 10 5R.
I'm using H1000 but haven't tried any other powders .I'm not pressured out yet though.

 

[RockyMtnMT]

You are correct, Sir!

Interesting. Your op says nothing like that. So this entire thread was about defining high velocity cartridges not the definition of a high velocity bullet?

 

[Korhil78]

Interesting. Your op says nothing like that. So this entire thread was about defining high velocity cartridges not the definition of a high velocity bullet?

His whole thread is about not calling a bullet a high velocity bullet because it isn't the bullet that is making itself go at a high velocity but rather the case capacity and the powder.

I would like to believe that everyone knows that when someone says "high velocity" bullet that it is a bullet that is going at a high velocity because of the powder in the case that propelled it to that velocity and not the bullet itself making it do that.

Another person in another thread had stated that he had a high velocity bullet that was blowing up in mid flight and that is how all of this started.

 

[FEENIX]

His whole thread is about not calling a bullet a high velocity bullet because it isn't the bullet that is making itself go at a high velocity but rather the case capacity and the powder.

I would like to believe that everyone knows that when someone says "high velocity" bullet that it is a bullet that is going at a high velocity because of the powder in the case that propelled it to that velocity and not the bullet itself making it do that.

Another person in another thread had stated that he had a high velocity bullet that was blowing up in mid flight and that is how all of this started.

Again, Sir, you are correct!

 

[RockyMtnMT]

His whole thread is about not calling a bullet a high velocity bullet because it isn't the bullet that is making itself go at a high velocity but rather the case capacity and the powder.

I would like to believe that everyone knows that when someone says "high velocity" bullet that it is a bullet that is going at a high velocity because of the powder in the case that propelled it to that velocity and not the bullet itself making it do that.

Another person in another thread had stated that he had a high velocity bullet that was blowing up in mid flight and that is how all of this started.

My bad. I'm my world a bullet is a projectile. "High velocity bullet" is only referring to a projectile. Guess I should have known that this thread titled "What Is a high velocity bullet?" Had nothing to do with bullets, and everything to do with how they gain velocity. @FEENIX we should start over and you can re title your thread to "What is a high velocity cartridge?".

 

[HARPERC]

 

[Bob Wright]

Unless we could throw in some confusion of the Rocketball Volcanic, all in one wimpy bullet/cartridge which I declare was high speed in the inventors mind

 

[2buffalo]

My take on it is calling a bullet high velocity doesn't make sense since high or low velocity is a relative term. I would argue the same can be said for a cartridge. I think if you go back to the original post you will see he described a mono "bullet" better suited for higher velocity than a cup and core bullet which is true. The comical part was when people started posting about cartridges rather than bullets which was never mentioned in the original post. This is why earlier in the thread I asked if he did this on purpose. It was using a correct terminology post as far as I could tell. I am not the OP though so I am just speculating.

 

[FEENIX]

Their are educational threads, and entertainment threads. I enjoy both.

I classified this thread as entertainment from the beginning, I hope threads like these don't go away.

It is both; the original intent was educational but turned out to be entertaining and was told controversial.

 

[ButterBean]

I just read the OP again to make sure and "Cartridge" was never mentioned "Bullet" was the subject so was this just another strategically worded game ?

 

[FEENIX]

My take on it is calling a bullet high velocity doesn't make sense since high or low velocity is a relative term. I would argue the same can be said for a cartridge. I think if you go back to the original post you will see he described a mono "bullet" better suited for higher velocity than a cup and core bullet which is true. The comical part was when people started posting about cartridges rather than bullets which was never mentioned in the original post. This is why earlier in the thread I asked if he did this on purpose. It was using a correct terminology post as far as I could tell. I am not the OP though so I am just speculating.

And I answered you accordingly.

 

[ButterBean]

I don't know what a "High-Velocity Bullet" is , have never heard of the term used to describe the projectile itself .

I started reading Outdoors , Shooting , and Hunting magazines back in the late 1950's , and the writers of the time used the term "High-Velocity" as an adjective to describe the rifle and pistol cartridges of the time .
Generally , a centerfire rifle cartridge was called "High-Velocity" when it was capable of a muzzle velocity of 3000 FPS or higher . At that time , 3000 FPS was "The Holy Grail".
.22 Long Rifle cartridges had to be capable of 1300 FPS or higher to be labeled as H.V. Rimfire .
Also , at that time , the term "High-Velocity" for center-fire pistols was only used to describe the .357 Magnum and .44 Rem. Magnum cartridges , as they were the only 2 pistol cartridges capable of attaining 1600 FPS , in their original factory design performance parameters .

If my aging memory serves me correctly , the .357 "Magnum" cartridge was developed, and introduced during the 1930's era , and the Winchester ammunition was designed to drive a 158gr , jacketed , soft-point bullet at a velocity of 1610 FPS , from the Smith and Wesson pistols with an 8-3/8" barrel .
When the .44 Remington Magnum cartridge was developed and introduced during the 1950's , it was designed to fire the 240gr jacketed soft-point bullets at 1600 FPS when shot from the S&W Model 29 pistol with the 8-3/8" barrel .

Those were the common definitions used to describe "High-Velocity" from that time period .

Today there is no clear definition as to what is classified as "High-Velocity"

I said the same thing earlier, 3000fps was the bar for many years

 

[ButterBean]

Just to add fuel to the fire the test group that I am associated with who have tested thousands upon thousands of bullets now categorize anything above 3800fps "Hyper Velocity" as everything that one given bullet does at 3000fps changes drastically 3800fps and above