Hey guys I'm new to the thread, but I have read a few discussions on this webpage. Here is what I have going on. I currently have a mark v in 7mm weatherby mag. Composite stock and 26" barrel. I love this gun and I picked it up new for 600. I just cannot afford to keep shooting it and I do not reload. Now I can trade this gun for a sps ss in 308. Much more affordable to shoot and I shoot as much as possible. The gun would be mostly for target shooting out to 800 yards. So far iv only shot up to 500 but I want to push my limits. Do u guys think I should trade? The Remington is brand new. I want the best accuracy possible. I want it straight up which will shoot more accurately. It's only between these two gums because the local gun shop just got the 700 in. Any help is much appreciated
weatherby mark v vs remington 700 sps ss
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Bigeclipse
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Do you not reload because you CAN'T? (maybe due to where you live or something) or just because you havent learned how, or afraid of costs? In all honesty, I was in your situation a few months back. Reloading is your best bet when it comes to accuracy and long distance shots...especially out to 800 yards. If you were staying under 500, id say go for it...any gun shooting 1.5 MOA or less can be fun out to 500 yards but beyond that and things start to get funny. You really want a gun shooting less than 1MOA for that long of a shot (800 yards). Finding a factory load in a mid level rifle that will consistantly shoot under 1 MOA is a gamble. Some guns will be fine while others may be super picky (like my browning x-bolt) which I spent 250 dollars on AMMO alone to find out that it likes the federal fusion 165 grains the best.
You can get into reloading for 500 bucks, especially if you look into the used market. I got a whole set-up for 300 bucks, minus the case tumbler which is 60 bucks and calipers which were 35 bucks. Reloading, at first, can seem really complex, but it really is not and then you get very accurate loads at half the cost of factory ammo. Also, if you do shoot a lot it is a no brainer, it will definitely end up being cheaper for you.
ANYWAYS, as far as the two rifles you are talking about...the MARK V is the better rifle but yes you are shooting expensive ammo compared to the 308 especially since you could buy military grade 308 ammo at cheap prices, but DO NOT forget that military grade ammo MAY shoot like crap out of that particular rifle and you may not be able to shoot it out to 800 yards. If you do get the remington...id definitely save up for a new stock OR at the very least have the stock bedded as the SPS stocks arent the worst but definitely are on the flimsy side of things and can affect accuracy.
MudRunner2005
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Have you been saving your 7mm Wby brass? If so, would you be interested in sending them my way?
Also, you got a smokin deal on that Mark V for $600.....I'd set it aside in the safe for now, till you start reloading, and go buy the Remington 700 in .308 so you have something to shoot in the meantime that is cheap. Save the Weatherby for hunting where you only shoot it a couple times a year.
I wouldn't trade one in for another. They can both serve a good purpose. I would keep the Weatherby for hunting, and buy the .308 for shooting.
Varberger757
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Trading a Weatherby Mark V for a Rem SPS seems to me like trading a Porsche for a Toyota Corolla. 
If you'd like to use the Rem SPS for LRH it needs a tune up for sure at least both stock and trigger. For the money, you may buy many 7mm Wby rounds and can keep the better gun. gun)
If you'd like to use the Rem SPS for LRH it needs a tune up for sure at least both stock and trigger. For the money, you may buy many 7mm Wby rounds and can keep the better gun. gun)
I appreciate the responses guys. Now obviously the weatherby is worth way more then the Remington. I do not reload because I don't have the extra funds to buy a kit yet. Yes I have saved the brass and so far that's only one box. Iv only broke in the barrel barely. If I could have both guns obviously I would but with money right now that just won't happen. My buddy has a sps tactical and that thing is a tack driver all day. So as the money I'm looking for the cheaper shoot which I think is obviously the Remington just due to ammo cost. Last question is the weatherby capable of .5 moa at a 100 yards consistently like a lot of remingtons can do? Given a new stock would have to be put on but that would be down the road
MudRunner2005
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Yes, the Weatherby is capable of 1/2" @ 100 yards (1/2 MOA). You do realize that it would be fairly inexpensive to buy an RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme kit and 1 set of dies...
RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Master Single Stage Press Kit
RCBS 2-Die Set 7mm Weatherby Mag
RCBS Shellholder #4 (7mm Remington Mag 300 Winchester Mag 338
It will be MUCH cheaper than buying a whole new rifle setup. And you'll get more satisfaction and save more money.
RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Master Single Stage Press Kit
RCBS 2-Die Set 7mm Weatherby Mag
RCBS Shellholder #4 (7mm Remington Mag 300 Winchester Mag 338
It will be MUCH cheaper than buying a whole new rifle setup. And you'll get more satisfaction and save more money.
Seems like keeping the weatherby should be an easy decision. I can get a lee reloading kit and scheels for $110 or a hornady for $300. I no that the Remington is a great platform for benchrest shooting and great accuracy if I ever got to that point. And I no that magnum barrels get shot out a lot faster then a non magnum cartridge. Sorry this is such a hard decision for me. I love this weatherby but Remington 700s havnt become the most popular bolt gun for no reason and a gun that many military snipers use/used
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Remington's are good guns but your friends SPS that is a tac driver...I doubt it is a tac driver with ALL loads. Hardly any rifles shoot all loads well. So make sure your friend isnt reloading and then confirm which factory ammo he is shooting and stick with ONLY that. My remington mountain shoots .5-.75 MOA with remington core lok 165 grains BUT it was only able to shoot 1.5MOA with NOSLER PREMIUM accubonds which were 46 bucks a box compared to the coreloks which were 28 bucks a box. This was before i started reloading. You will hardly ever find a gun that will shoot 1/2 MOA with factory loads...just saying...if you are going to shoot 800 yards you really need to start thinking about reloading unless you dont care to much about accuracy. For example... 1.5MOA would give you a 12 inch group at 800 yards, this is quite large...this is of course not including some shooter error, so more likely you will shoot like 15 inch groups or greater.
I am not sure what factory loads he uses and I no for sure he doesn't hand load because we have talked about getting a kit together and splitting cost. And I no that his gun doesmt shoot amazing with all loads. Now accuracy does matter to me and I will start reloading one day. So for now I believe that the Remington will shoot more accurate with factory loads and it will be cheaper to shoot. I'm good friends with the local gun shop guy and he shoots f class in competition so maybe he will be up for a little test to see what gun is more accurate haha
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Everyone stating weatherby's cant shoot under 1.5MOA with factory loads must not have done much shooting. I am by no means an experienced pro but I have seen many vanguards, let alone mark Vs shoot right around 1MOA or a bit better with certain factory loads.
To the original poster...YES there are cheaper and more types 308 Factory loads making it EASIER to find a better shooting factory load in a particular gun, HOWEVER, if this is your friend you are trading with and not a gun shop...you are getting ripped off unless he is throwing something else in with the deal. A Remington SPS tactical goes for like 650 new...your Mark V goes for like 800 USED for a basic mark V...even more if it is a higher end mark 5.
SELL your Mark V and buy a NEW SPS and pocket the difference in cash.
OR Better yet...sell your MARK V and with the cash you might be able to afford a brand new Remington Sendero in 300 WIN MAG which also has readily available ammo and will be an AWESOME long range gun... lots of guys on here buy the senderos. They are great rifles.
To the original poster...YES there are cheaper and more types 308 Factory loads making it EASIER to find a better shooting factory load in a particular gun, HOWEVER, if this is your friend you are trading with and not a gun shop...you are getting ripped off unless he is throwing something else in with the deal. A Remington SPS tactical goes for like 650 new...your Mark V goes for like 800 USED for a basic mark V...even more if it is a higher end mark 5.
SELL your Mark V and buy a NEW SPS and pocket the difference in cash.
OR Better yet...sell your MARK V and with the cash you might be able to afford a brand new Remington Sendero in 300 WIN MAG which also has readily available ammo and will be an AWESOME long range gun... lots of guys on here buy the senderos. They are great rifles.
