Was the 6.5 cm really a necessity?

Your a Hornady guy. That pretty much sums up this conversation. While your on the phone with them next time ask how many jackets they buy from us. Lol
 
Mitchell Demand said:
Your a Hornady guy. That pretty much sums up this conversation. While your on the phone with them next time ask how many jackets they buy from us. Lol
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Not a Hornady guy!
I have red, yellow, white and green boxes in my reloading room.
Not sure what jackets have to do with you claiming the 6 Creed has more barrel life than the 6.5. When everyone that has shot both in competition claims otherwise.
You're the only one making that claim.
So, I guess when I hear some BS about the more overbore 6mm having better barrel life than the 6.5, I'll just say, "you're a Sierra guy, that sums up this conversation."!
 
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Mitchell Demand said:
Your a Hornady guy. That pretty much sums up this conversation. While your on the phone with them next time ask how many jackets they buy from us. Lol
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Nope, I stopped hunting with Hornady around the same time as Sierra. I'm a Berger guy. Occasionally, I shoot Nosler Custom Comps or RDF bullets for quantity loadings, since they're about 1/2 the price of Bergers.
 
USSOCOM seems to think so! They just accepted the 6.5 Creedmoor over the.308 for their new precision sniper rifles. The .308 drops below supersonic 100 yards before the 6.5 Creedmoor, flatter trajectory, better accuracy, a.s.o. ...the rest I recommend you read in their announcement I don't want to have to deal with all the teed off .308 fans. Not opinion, just USSOCOM's listed facts from their trials for their decision making.
 
MudRunner2005 said:
What about a 7mm Creedmoor with a Berger 180 Hybrid seated to 2.910" OAL... I'd actually shoot this one. Made this wildcat a while back from a piece of 6.5CM brass I picked up at random. With a custom cut reamer, and a Wyatt's 3.01" extended mag box for a SA 700, you could seat to the lands and still have plenty of room to feed it as a repeater.

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I'd be down for a 7mm creed..... launch 180 class bullets in the ball park of 2600 fps and that should pretty easily out run both 6mm and 6.5mm variants as far as energy and wind drift goes. Trade off obviously would be trajectory and recoil
 
ColoradoRancher said:
USSOCOM seems to think so! They just accepted the 6.5 Creedmoor over the.308 for their new precision sniper rifles. The .308 drops below supersonic 100 yards before the 6.5 Creedmoor, flatter trajectory, better accuracy, a.s.o. ...the rest I recommend you read in their announcement I don't want to have to deal with all the teed off .308 fans. Not opinion, just USSOCOM's listed facts from their trials for their decision making.
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Thank you, I was just about to post that info(the cat out of the bag for me was when Lake City started carrying 6.5 brass). So far, I've seen other on here post facts/data. But maybe I missed it but has the OP put up any data to back this crazy claim???????
 
Creedmoor shooter said:
Based of research I've done, most guys say the 243/6mm creed and other 6mm cartridges of that class generally last around 1200-1500 rounds. 6.5x47, 6.5 creed, and 260 will generally get you to 2000-2300ish rounds.
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These values are very close to mine and other shooters actual experience shooting PRS. This is summer temps, and long strings that result in hot barrels. Bullet weight/velocity, and/or attention to barrel heat can influence these values. I have seen my buddy's 6mm variants(6XC, 6mmCM) show throat erosion of +.030" between 800 and 1400 rounds. My current 6.5x47 Kreiger is at 1500 rounds. No measurable throat erosion with <.25MOA precision. I'm hoping for another 7-10 matches(70-100 rounds/Match) before barrel replacement. We had a team of Ruger employees shooting a PRS Match last year. They said that the average barrel life, indicated by a .5MOA loss of precision averaged 2200 rounds with the 6.5 CM in their rifles running 140gr at 2700FPS.
 
Creedmoor shooter said:
Just curious as to why you stopped shooting sierras? I've shot their match kings and they're very consistent bullets. They run right with bergers from what I've seen.
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The 7mm 160 SGK's I was shooting were explosive (not controlled explosive, like Bergers), causing massive meat loss to the deer I shot. After several deer with the same results, I stopped shooting them all together, and went with 160 Accubonds, which I then also strayed from to go to Bergers. And have been happy since.
 
MudRunner2005 said:
The 7mm 160 SGK's I was shooting were explosive (not controlled explosive, like Bergers), causing massive meat loss to the deer I shot. After several deer with the same results, I stopped shooting them all together, and went with 160 Accubonds, which I then also strayed from to go to Bergers. And have been happy since.
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I had the exact same failure with the exact same bullet on a bison hunt in South Dakota.
 
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