US forest issues kill order for feral cows in New Mexico

[CoyHunter38]

The NM Cattle Growers lobbied againt the proposal for hunting them.
The NM Livestock Board opposed shooting them last year when they killed 67 from the air.
Bears ate well when they came out in the spring.
The Continental Trail runs through 15 miles of that section of the Gila River. The river bottom was over grazed before they started gathering and shooting them last year.

The environmentalist sued the FS over the cows being on the river. As part of the remedy the environmentalist agreed to the shooting from the helicopter.

Don't try to make any sense out of it.
There are plenty of locals who would buy a permit to have the meat and not cost you the taxpayer a dime.

An environmentalist agreed to fly helicopters and let food go to waste? I hate that this doesn't surprise me.
If they issued tags and let people eat them, then we'd buy less meat from the farms they complain about.
Instead of reducing "waste" they seem to prefer more CO2 emissions.

 

[Stonyman88]

New Mexico and I believe AZ. at one time had a camel season....

Love it, and I cut down trees in the Sahara Desert Forest too.

 

[Chas1]

Love it, and I cut down trees in the Sahara Desert Forest too.

Too Funny

 

[2Rope]

The wacko environmentalist demand cattle removed from the Gila by the same government that sold the grazing permits to the rancher in the first place. This 850 sq mile area has about 150 cows on it, THE CATTLE ARE NOT DESTROYING THE GILA RIVER any more than the deer and elk. This area has been grazed since the 1800's. Part of the reason there are a quarter million dollars of cattle there is because the Against Service (they are NOT for us!) pulled the permits from ranchers due to a few pin heads who protested for the removal while we were at our jobs working. The communist, socialist ba$yards are winning and we are letting them… It's a sad time in our history.

 

[PApa Black]

I give up, let the bears eat and people who are hungry starve or wish they had some meat, maybe put Pete Buttigieg in charge, he's blaming Trump for the rail disaster in Ohio, typical from a idoit.

Himmmm. Could they be trying to prevent "Bang's" ????

 

[Steve Hannon]

I'm not a hunter, so maybe it's just my naivety to the situation. But 150 cows grazing over 150 miles of land doesn't seem like that much to me. Considering the ecological benefits of their grazing by enhancing soil qualities and such.

I guess I don't understand why this is an issue in the first place. I get broken fencing and all that, but 150 cows?we're not talking about 10's of thousands of deer that are starving themselves out or feral hogs destroying entire farms in a couple days.

Am I missing something that makes this important?

 

[338 dude]

I'm not a hunter, so maybe it's just my naivety to the situation. But 150 cows grazing over 150 miles of land doesn't seem like that much to me. Considering the ecological benefits of their grazing by enhancing soil qualities and such.

I guess I don't understand why this is an issue in the first place. I get broken fencing and all that, but 150 cows?we're not talking about 10's of thousands of deer that are starving themselves out or feral hogs destroying entire farms in a couple days.

Am I missing something that makes this important?

EXACTLY!

 

[NMCOUES]

90% of the cattle in the Gila Wilderness can be found on about 6 miles of the river which happens to be on the Continental Divide Trail. The cattle had over grazed that section of the river since the two prior monsoon seasons were pretty poor.
There were some old bulls in that stretch that don't move off the trail. Since you get people from all over the world on that trail it turns into the Buffalo situation in Yellowstone.
The Fish and Wildlife Service shot most of them last year on the same type of shoot.

 

[Salmonhead]

Same governmental logic they use on Isle Royale wolves/ moose in Michigan. The island has/had a robust moose population. The feebwolves that were there, died or left across the ice. The moose were eating themselves out of house and home. Simple solution is to have a limited hunt. Instead, our government flew in wolves from Canada. New wolves immediately killed any remaining wolves over territory, and most have decided to leave anyway. Throwing money away, when hunters have been clamoring to hunt the moose for decades. Its just stupid.

 

[Ol' Red]

Wouldn't this change bears eating habits to target cattle if the acquired a taste for it? Seems it could be problematic to bear health as ranchers would start hammering them.

delete

 

[BillLarson]

Love it, and I cut down trees in the Sahara Desert Forest too.

I jus googled it..... YES...camels were and are hunted in AZ & NM

 

[Zen Archery]

Look up New Zeland Feral Cows. Very tough and hard to hunt.
I say let them go feral!

 

[TBell]

Why not just open up a season for the public to harvest these Feral Cows?
Click the link below. US Forest is going to shoot from helicopters and let rot.

MSN

I'm there, why issue permits at all, if they are feral they are automatically not native game animals, therefore open season year round. Would be just like pigs in TX, open season year round at this point I believe not even needing a hunting license.

Problem solved never worry about cows in the area again. Sounds like a bunch of Donkeys working on a problem that should not even exist.

 

[PApa Black]

I'm not a hunter, so maybe it's just my naivety to the situation. But 150 cows grazing over 150 miles of land doesn't seem like that much to me. Considering the ecological benefits of their grazing by enhancing soil qualities and such.

I guess I don't understand why this is an issue in the first place. I get broken fencing and all that, but 150 cows?we're not talking about 10's of thousands of deer that are starving themselves out or feral hogs destroying entire farms in a couple days.

Am I missing something that makes this important?

You're spot on Steve!