UPS has officially stopped shipping guns?

[flyguy1]

We're lucky to have a good UPS store. They accept rifles for shipment, they just route them through USPS.
Just sent a Swedish Mauser on Monday, arrived on Friday.

 

[Bearman375]

Local Gun Store

Gotcha thanks

 

[Jim’s Hunt]

I live in a small town with no UPS or FedEx I ship USPS it's also cheaper. And yes I do have an FFL

 

[AC300RUM]

I want to add that our UPS hub was shipping firearms from individuals two weeks ago, I shipped a rifle week before last. When I went in two days ago, I wasn't allowed to ship an action. I was told that corporate UPS has started cracking down on hubs that ship firearms our gun parts with a serial number from an unapproved shipper. It's not a new policy, just one that UPS didn't really enforce until now. It's as much a money grab as anything else. Not if, but when the firearm shipping surcharge goes into place, UPS will have pulled off a corporate hat trick. Charge more for less with the customer having to do more to get what they want.

 

[bamban]

Yep....I see they have changed the guidelines on their website now. Following in the footsteps of FedEx.

Last year I sent some bullets to a friend. Escalation of rule interpretation went from the counter worker to the manager what an ammo (manager referred to as bullet) and a projectile, through a series of phone calls to her chain of command, till somebody educated her that it is legal to send them. I opened a box and showed her what the projectlie looks like ... copper and lead.

Sometimes some counter workers and the immediate managers, who were most likely went up the ranks, are not prepared and trained enough on what is and what is not when dealing with their customers.

 

[brassguy]

Yesterday I tried to ship a reloader. UPS store would not accept it, but the hub would.

 

[Sobewan]

I bought a rifle off GB recently and had it shipped to my LGS. As I was filling out the 4473 form the owner was telling me that the ATF made changes to the form that now require the FFL to identify privately made firearms. I do not know but it seems they are trying to build a data base to identify people. I could see where shipping companies wouldn't want to have to deal with ATF agents trying access their systems to identify the source. Nobody wants the government poking into their business so maybe they just trying to protect themselves. I dunno. Guess they don't want anyone to make a living making firearms and shipping them. Suppose to be made effective 4/1/23... April Fool's Day. Go figure.

 

[Dirtrax]

It sucks for sure but the answer is a work around. Kinda like Elon Musk putting the cap on twitter. This is gonna be how all this crap gets done in spite of them. What we want to engage in is legal, so they are playing the work around game on us. Has anyone worked with DHL?

 

[Knight]

I sold my last firearm on Gunbroker because of policy's changes at Fed Ex and UPS.. I had my local FFL dealer ship it for me via UPS and the cost was cheaper then I would have paid, including insurance of $2200.00. If the old policy was still in place. Nothing but back door gun control.

 

[cmysix]

Shipmygun.com just shipped two rifles one this last week no problems,works perfectly. Put the label on, drop the package off, thank you! Let me guess some of you are walking in and mak8ng a big announcement, hey everybody I'm got a gun here for shipping. A stock are you kidding me? They asked you is anything in the package was hazardous, they did not ask you what was in it, my God, think about it! Your all making your own problems

 

[LongRangeHuntingGuy50]

UPS is also closing the vast majority of their hubs nationwide over the next year. The hubs will ship for individuals IF you use "shipmygun.com". Its a subsidiary of budsgunshop and they struck a deal with UPS but it is required to go to a hub. Our local one has already closed. Total BS, now you have to pay an FFL to send repairs in.

When UPS first implemented the policy the local hub said I had to schedule a pickup online.

I wonder where this comes from. Woke people at UPS? Government pressure behind the scenes? Or something else?

It started with democrats senators sending letters to shipping companies. Then shippers creating new rules. Then republican senators sent letters to shipping companies. The shippers backed off their new rules to what the law required. Then President Biden pushed the new frame and serial number laws. Then the shippers started the current rules about contracts and access to records about the items being shipped, multiple accounts so everything is shipped separately.

Just shipped a rifle back to Savage last week. It was identified as a firearm on the form on told to the tech at the counter - no problem. This was from a UPS Customer Center. The UPS Stores would not ship. I'm in Colorado.

Here we have the receiver send a prepaid label on their account, Makin them the shipper and receiver.

 

[LongRangeHuntingGuy50]

UPS dropped Brownells and many other companies when this started.

You'll notice Gunbroker doesn't have nearly the listing I used to. The listings that are there have higher shipping fees. All shippers increased oversize package fees, ie. An extra $x for a package over 13" and an extra $xx for a package over 23"

 

[Rich Coyle]

Have you tried to take advantage of their insurance? What's the difference.

 

[Stang66]

I tried to ship an action from my local UPS hub yesterday, and was told they no longer ship guns or gun parts from non authorized shippers. I knew they had changed policy last year, but individuals where still able to ship to FFL's. That is no more. The person at the counter apologized profusely, but said corporate UPS will hold their hubs responsible for violating policy if they ship a gun or gun parts containing a serial number. They gave me a copy of the policy and it's pretty clear they are done shipping for individuals and any business they haven't "approved ". It also sounds like the approval process is arbitrary at best. Ammo, brass and projectiles will be next I'm sure.

Why did you tell them it was a rifle stock?