UPS has officially stopped shipping guns?

[Rob01]

Nope---not what I said! Please check your reading comprehension. It is a Federal Requirement to advise the shipper that you are shipping a firearm. If a 3rd party has done this already and satisfied that requirement, then there you go.

Read this and weep:

18 U.S. Code § 922 - Unlawful acts

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(e)
It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped; except that any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of the trip without violating any of the provisions of this chapter. No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm.

You do not have to when using Shipmyguns and what you were being told. I read what you said and comprehended it just fine.

 

[Boss Hoss]

You do not have to when using Shipmyguns and what you were being told. I read what you said and comprehended it just fine.

Rob--no you need to read the last sentence of what you just quoted.

 

[BigDon]

@cmysix Bud ITS THE LAW AND SOME PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. I WAS DUMBFOUNDED AND STILL TO THIS DAY HOW MANY PEOPLE FLAT CANNOT THINK AND DO WHAT THE GOVT TELLS THEM TO. MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE JUST REPEATING WHAT SOMEONE ELSE TOLD THEM AND HAVE NEVER QUESTIONED A DIRECTION GIVEN. THANKS FOR THE HUMOR A WHILE AGO AFTER THE FIRST.....BUT ITS THE LAW COMMENT I KEEP CHECKING BACK FOR THE LAUGHS. OH ITS THE LAW YOU HAVE TO LAUGH AT SOME PEOPLE....I LOOKED IT UP AND IT REALLY EXISTS.

This 'law' thing often gets taken to extremes. In the '80's I was flying from San Francisco to San Diego to pickup some collector grade Colt Sauer rifles for my wife. I checked a multi-gun safari-style case as luggage - since I was going to pick up the rifles. Just before my flight boards, I get paged to the security office. As I leave the waiting area I pick up 2 followers. As I approach the security office, they walk past me, turn around and stop me at the office door, demand to see my ID and boarding pass. I comply, they invite me in. They quiz me if I have a gun and if I checked a gun. HMFIC asks me if I checked a gun in my luggage. I answer, properly - no. Out come the cuffs and the MP5s. Oooops! HMFIC tells me I'm lying and they have my gun in the next office, but they can't get my case open. They escort me to another office - cuffed - and covered by 3 full auto weapons. (I'm in a Brook's Brothers suit.). They open the office door and here are 3 more agents with full auto weapons at the ready. I walk over to the gun case - they draw directly at me and tell me to stop! I respond 'I thought you wanted me to open the case? We do, they say, but no fast moves. I ask them to uncuff at least one hand. They do. Open the case slowly they say. I take the 3 combo locks off and start to open the case. FREEZE! I do. Another agent comes over and opens the lid - expecting the big reveal of my guns. No guns! Big Problem. HMFIC starts lecturing me about false statements. I demand that they remove the cuffs and get me to my flight. Head man tells if I ever check another 'gun' case to declare it as a gun. I made matters worse by pointing out his admonition that false statements to TSA is a Felony! No one was amused. They did get me on the flight - and with the gun case. Most amazing thing of all - there was a big red and white sticker now on the case that said: Passed X-Ray! What a hoot. After I opened the lid they took all the padding out and checked it for teeny weenie guns.

I could go on. Maybe in a dedicated post. I have way to many stories like this from over the years.

 

[Coldfinger]

The only power "they" have is that which we the people grant them. .....consent of the governed.

"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED". Any "law" conflicting with the Constitution is no law at all.


These UPS workers are complicit, whether ignorant or not.

"Yes, at first it will not be fair. Someone will have to temporarily lose his job. For the young who seek to live by truth, this will at first severely complicate life, for their tests and quizzes, too, are stuffed with lies, and so choices will have to be made. But there is no loophole left for anyone who seeks to be honest: Not even for a day, not even in the safest technical occupations can he avoid even a single one of the listed choices—to be made in favor of either truth or lies, in favor of spiritual independence or spiritual servility. And as for him who lacks the courage to defend even his own soul: Let him not brag of his progressive views, boast of his status as an academician or a recognized artist, a distinguished citizen or general. Let him say to himself plainly: I am cattle, I am a coward, I seek only warmth and to eat my fill."

Aleksander Solzhenitsyn, 1974

I'd give you $100 to go in my pasture with some of my former bulls and even a couple brood cows I've had and see who is coward

 

[milo-2]

You realize I didn't quote you and was agreeing with you. Read a little closer next time before making two posts against me.

He was on a roll, looks like you were a byproduct of the ninja like destruction

 

[G19Jeeper]

I tried to ship an action from my local UPS hub yesterday, and was told they no longer ship guns or gun parts from non authorized shippers. I knew they had changed policy last year, but individuals where still able to ship to FFL's. That is no more. The person at the counter apologized profusely, but said corporate UPS will hold their hubs responsible for violating policy if they ship a gun or gun parts containing a serial number. They gave me a copy of the policy and it's pretty clear they are done shipping for individuals and any business they haven't "approved ". It also sounds like the approval process is arbitrary at best. Ammo, brass and projectiles will be next I'm sure.

All the better as far as I am concerned. They are the worst at losing packages, damaging packages and just straight up bad service. They still owe me north of $200 for their incompetence. I know I will never see it.

 

[Indiandunes]

Well, maybe it's a regional thing or the folks at my UPS store haven't read the memo. I just shipped a Rem. 700 stock from my local UPS Store here in CO to an address in FL. He asked what the contents were . I told him it was a rifle stock. He said, "OK, just wanted to make sure it's not a rifle. If it was, you would have to ship it from the UPS Service Ctr. (Hub) down the road". Anyhow, I declared what it was and the $500 value and it's on its way.

 

[martyj]

Ups isnt much good around here anyway.
I swear they drive by honk the horn and if you dont run out they keep the package for you to go get.

 

[Texas.270]

I just did also.
Pre label from Begera.handed the gal the box at the UPS Store ,gave me a reciept,she said thank you.
My Usps lady,if I hand her a long skinny box.....................another Vortex?

" ...another Vortex?" Sounds like my wife

 

[Boss Hoss]

You are 100% wrong. Shipmyguns.com is shipping through their FFL and you are doing it through them. No laws broken. Go look at their site.

Too many idiots here who do not even know how to read a regulation. The regulation requires the notice to be provided to the shipper. The exception is a licensee.

May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a...

www.atf.gov

May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]

 

[Rob01]

Yup too many idiots. Lol